Quote from the article: “The inclusion of intrusive DRM softwares [sic] like Denuvo is a choice that yields an unfair punishment on the consumer,” Running With Scissors says. “Respect the consumer, make a game they want to play, and you will never feel the need to fight piracy. The gaming industry deserves a better future, fight for that.”

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Running With Scissors is a “legendary” developer?

Postal was a violent mess that didn’t age well.

Postal 2 was a buggy mess that also didn’t age well.

After that, it was just legitimately bad games on top of the humor not aging well. (They literally don’t even acknowledge Postal 3)

Seriously, who the fuck would label them legendary? They’ve been a broken mess for over a decade.

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I’d label them legends in the sense that they’re probably one of the game studios I know by name the best even though that’s all they have to show for it. Postal 2 for as bugged and edgy as it is, is an extraordinarily famous game.

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know by name

Sure

know the best

Ehh… Even putting aside things like Nintendo… Let’s just say I know the names of actual developers on several small studios, including bad games, and I have no idea of a single person who made Postal

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The Titanic is a legendary ship, but it wasn’t a very good ship

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But everybody has heard about the Titanic.

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People who agree with their stance on DRM.

Theres a definite trend of people elevating the value of opinions of those they agree with. It makes any kind of intelligent discourse very hard to do.

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They didn’t release the third game, it was done by a third party (I believe with some licensing shenanigans?), which is why they don’t acknowledge Postal 3. They didn’t make it. Which is why they (somewhat recently) have given the A-OK to pirate that game.

I’d assume that last part is why they say legendary.

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No one said the legends were good.

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You’re not the target audience, the target audience is edgy teenage boys. Postal 2 was the perfect game for 13 year old me.

You’re right labeling them as “legendary” is just weird tho.

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For clicks and to bait comments exactly like this one.

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While I’m not fond of the company, and perhaps legendary is a bit excessive, they’re still a big name that made remarkable videogames. With Postal 2 they nailed it, can’t say about the other 3 because I’ve never played them.

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All this serves to prove is that you have fucking god awful taste

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I’m thinking that’s gonna be a bit of projection on your part.

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I’m honestly disappointed to see people disrespecting two absolute classics in such a way.

I can understand not liking the first postal, but postal 2? I’m afraid there is no hope for you

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Denuvo is the apex of a long history of bad choices.

Maybe actually sell us the games in a way we really own it, without any sort of online activation/account/telemetry/data-gathering like when we could buy a disc and just use it, and it should all be ok.

I feel like a dinosaur every-time I think this nowadays, but what is so problematic with the “own as in physically own” that is so hard to implement? If they want to provide a service, sell a service.

In the past I used pirate versions of games I bought just to be able to play them offline, or because I did not agree with the terms of service. It is so much for our info, it goes beyond just knowing you are the real owner of the software copy: it comes to the point where it looks like it’s to guarantee we are not its’ owner.

Now some DRMs even destroy gaming performance and its just faster to use 'ked versions. I hope it changes somehow.

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Is it really possible to own them properly? If in almost all cases we lack the source code and there are even proprietary requirements for both software and hardware, what chance do they have of working halfway well in a few decades?

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And with stuff like SecuRom, even owning a legit physical copy of the game does not help you when the service vanishes

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Even the devs hate denuvo. It slows down the build times and makes it hard to debug.

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The publisher? The business types?

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Nah the Devs definitely get forced to use Denuvo by corporate… Stockholders and such. Denuvo gets advertised as the best anti piracy method and stockholders see that and say I want that in our game.

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So why would anyone hate Denuvo? Nobody is forcing you to play Denuvo-using games. It was your choice.

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Not if you work for a massive publisher.

edit: or if you publish under one. It’s likely in your contract. Devs really don’t want to use it, but they are required to do so.

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Release a DEMO, like the old days. So we can DECIDE FOR OURSELVES!!

Its a simple fucking technique. We only pirate to try, if its shit - then fuck you. If its good - then you have a purchase.

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That’s the problem though. They want you to commit to a purchase and hope that you forget about your 2h grace window

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I mean I just pirate it and play the pirated version lmfao.

No sense in paying money at that point

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Actually yes.

In my childhood it wasn’t very easy to find a licensed copy (TBF, even pirate copy sometimes), but demos would be distributed with magazines etc.

And after playing a demo which you like a licensed honestly bought copy becomes emotionally much better than piracy.

It was a working mechanism. For games which are not crap anyway.

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You can return games on Steam tbh, enough of a demo for me if you’re a Steam user.

I think you can also return physical copies? Depends.

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Two hours really isn’t enough for a lot of games. Some games you can’t even get through the tutorial in two hours.

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“Postal” is such a steaming pile of edgelord shit that even Civvie11 doing videos on the franchise doesn’t make it any more bearable for me.

Critical support for this developer’s message here, that said.

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I appreciate Postal 2 because the premise is kinda funny. It’s deliberately designed so you can beat it without doing any violence at all. You’re given tasks like get milk, pick up your paycheck, etc. And it involves standing in lines or people berating you. You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower. I think standing in line to get Gary Coleman’s autograph takes 90 minutes if you do it normally.

Otherwise it’s very silly early 2000s edgy white guy dudebro humor

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You’re stuck doing tedious annoying repetitive tasks, or you can get a flamethrower.

That premise, while cute, hasn’t aged well for me. The ever-rising number of chanlords shooting up their schools (and elder chanlords murder-suiciding their own families) because no one would blow them behind the bleachers (or because the wife left him or the kids won’t call anymore) sours the premise of “wouldn’t it be funny to murder everyone that mildly annoyed you” white guy dudebro humor for me long ago.

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Yo its a video game

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