“You know I don’t work an depend on your paycheck”
Said no landlord ever. This is almost as bad as the persecution fetish religious memes, same energy.
I was gonna say, I’m a landlord and I work Monday to Friday… and I rely on your rent check.
Yeah. I think there is a pretty big difference in the dynamic between a person who owns and directly manages rental properties and a corporate land lord that exists purely to extract as much money as possible from a tenant.
Ya, I don’t love the mom and pop landlords who own a few rental properties as a way to actually retire at a reasonable age. They aren’t the same as fucking blackrock and the other corporate landlords who grew at exponential rates after the 08 collapse and have worked so hard to make housing unaffordable. At least the small guys seem to give a shit about their property even if they’re scumbags. So if there’s a water leak, mold etc they’re probably more interested in fixing it so it doesn’t get worse.
Exactly what I was getting at. Funny how we’re saying the exact same thing but I’m getting slammed, isn’t it.
I think it’s the “said no land Lord ever” bit. There’s a lot of investment property owners with hundreds of units that can be shady AF. It’s just tough to be the " I can handle this mortgage if I get a basement suite rented out and work really hard" and get lumped in.
Except this is real. Land"lords" are parasites on our society. They could easily be replaced by an overseeing body or really nothing at all would even be better.
Facts. There’s really no excuse for being a landlord. Even the “mom and pop” ones people are sucking off in this thread are a fucking scourge who are hoarding resources and exploiting the working class. I don’t care how sweet and polite they might be about it.
The only good landlord is…
Edit: Blocklist fodder itt, so many greasy bootlickers…
My FiL owns a few properties that he rents out. He “retired” at 49. Now he spends most of his day, every day, either improving empty/not ready properties, or maintaining the currently rented properties. The people he rents to simply cannot afford a house, at any price, or they do not have the time and skills or maintain their own home. He’s only evicted one person in his time as a landlord, literally because the tenant didn’t pay for 6 months, turned the property into a drug den and went on the run when the police tried to serve a warrant.
I get that landlords on the surface level can be seen as predatory, and I agree that there are a disproportionate amount of scum and anti-humam business drones in the rental business; but its important to remember that there are genuine people who buy, maintain and rent out properties so that their community isn’t rife with dangerous dilapidated buildings filled with squatters.
Everything you said is a lie. There’s no exploitation. Paying rent is trading money for a service.
Make everything black and white and then plug your ears when anyone brings in nuance.
Sounds about right.
It’s hilarious how many people are trying to defend landlords like they’re actually somehow good for society.
Outside of the rare landlord-as-a-roomate to afford the mortgage scenario, landlords and renting are a solution to a problem they’re creating themselves. They benefit property owners and developers, while creating housing environments that encourage the rest of us to be dependent on them until they day we die.
“I retired when I was 45, so your check covers the mortgage and my living expenses” - my landlord
She was upset that I auto-payed on the end of the month because she needed it to clear so she could pay her mortgage and rent. She bought in HCOL when it was cheaper, realized how much she could rent it for, “retired”, and then moved to LCOL. Landlords are cool.
She didn’t retire, she just found a serf to do the job for her.
Move that autopay to the last millisecond, friend.
Fucking amen… We aren’t giving a portion of the wheat we harvest to the landlords, but we’re effectively doing the same thing. Half of my buying power goes right to the landlord…
And to just +1 what the other commentor said, my landlord too depends on my income to pay her mortgage as did the last 3 landlords I had… So glad I could help four fucking people pay for their mortgage while I’ll never have a home of my own.
Murica!
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again. Even the father of capitalism thought landlords were parasitic leeches on the economy. Even the father of capitalism hated landlords
What’s the alternative? Not defending landlords; I genuinely don’t understand. If you don’t have money to buy a home/condo, you’re going to have to rent from someone. Until housing is not subject to scarcity, there will always be landlords.
If so many jobs didn’t stupidly require college degrees and if college wasn’t stupidly expensive and if wages had kept up with production for the last 50+ years and if corporations werent allowed to own vast swaths of housing and if the world wasn’t run by greedy power hungry capitalists then maybe, just maybe, PERHAPS people might have a few extra bucks to be able to afford something.
Just a thought. Maybe, the issue is money has been taken from the people in so many ways.
Landlords are the reason housing is so expensive. By buying up realestate and renting it out, landlords are directly contributing to the scarcity. Personally housing should be a human right. If you don’t want to go that far here’s a different solution. Literally just make apartment’s buyable rather than rentable. Don’t allow landlords to buy up all this realestate thus raising prices by creating a fake scarcity of housing. If landlords didn’t own all of it, and people could buy apartment’s rather than rent them, the prices would lower and become more accessible for people
Henry George wrote about this extensively. The solution is a tax on all land at just under 100% of it’s rental value. That allows landlords to profit from the structures they build and maintain, but not from the land itself. It disincentivizes real estate speculation, lowering the cost of land and housing and improving accessibility to people who use it productively.
You ever think about how weird most housing is?
Suburbia is lines of houses with the same items in them not being used. Full of people who become petty tyrants comparing about a car being parked to close or a yard not neat enough.
If you start to question how we should live together it’s easier to see a way for landlords to cease to exist.
Two (current) real world solutions: Most people in China outright own their homes with no mortgage, as the government owns the land itself and subsidizes housing purchases and even outright gives housing to its citizens. Similarly, most people in Singapore live in subsidized government housing.
I might be wrong, but I think even if you changed nothing else about society except abolishing landlording, supply and demand would drive down home costs and force banks to offer mortgages to the people they currently deny. Ideally though, abolishing landlording would be part of a larger change to the way housing works.
Making an investment out of a necessity is immoral any way you cut it.
Health should be public.
Food needs to turn a profit, that’s understandable, but also food food is not finite where the rich can hoard it all… Or maybe that’s their next thing 🤔 nah won’t happen because it’s perishable
Capitalism was meant to prevent wealth
Adam Smith saw the nobility with more money than the workers (craftsmen) so he came up with a system that pays based on hours put in
In a capitalist society everyone makes the same amount per hour and it’s just the one who works the most. There can also be no inheritance because that is profiting off someone else’s work
That is to say; no shit he hated land lords
I don’t get it
Landlords arent fond of termites. The renter is not so subtly threatening the property they reside in because the landlord is threatening to raise the rent so they can continue their lifestyle despite inflation and not working.
It’s a “profession” built around exploiting the poor say the landlord doesn’t have to get a real job
There’s no exploitation. Paying rent is simply trading money for a service.
“forcing people to give up large portions of their income while building absolutely no equity in it simply to not be homeless due to policies we lobbied for isn’t exploitative!”
This would make sense if we were talking about something that is inherently optional for anyone to purchase.
We aren’t though. Housing is a basic necessity for everyone, and the hard reality is that working full time does not mean you can afford to purchase housing, so you have to rent or be homeless. It’s exploiting specifically the poor because they can’t purchase housing, so they have to make a choice between renting or being homeless (which is also the more expensive option).
A lot of landlords are in fact huge holdings companies.
I hope this clears things up.
People on the internet seem to think a landlord is one guy scamming hundreds of people.
If you’re landlord is an individual, most of the time they’re renting the house and using the funds for a big expense, most of the time mom’s nursing home bill
Bullshit.
Most of them are people trying to earn passive income so they claim they are financially independent.
They should get more ants so they can get more rent
