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I’ve been seeing this a lot lately. Lots of bandwagoning going on. It is what it is though. People are fallible and often just follow the herd instead of thinking.

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I agree

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I agree

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You agree

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21 points

We all agree for ice gree

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I treat them like AntiWork, it’s fun to visit the zoo but living in one means dealing with a lot of random shit.

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I can only imagine they meant 60% of the front view of the house. Otherwise that just seems insane.

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But the problem is, words mean things. A lot of people unfortunately, put the wrong words down - and they think internally that it makes sense, but there is context missing in the words they put down. I’ve had entire conversations that went on for days, only for me to be 20 threads deep, and the person say “I mentioned that!!”, and I ask for them to show me where…only for them to realize they’ve been angry this whole time over something they assumed I was ignoring or misrepresenting. Turns out, they just simply internalized whatever it was, and didn’t write it.

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6 points

We are entirely on the same page

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This seems very unhealthy. Maybe go take a stroll around the block?

Edit: I’m referring to OP or whoever it was that made this image

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25 points

I, for one, welcome quality posts

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9 points

I love how lemmy is divided but coexisting.

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6 points

I actually hate that about Lemmy

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That’s exactly what came to my mind

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How exactly is doing the math unhealthy? This is like 60 seconds of math and a few minutes of graphics at most.

I’d rather have someone doing the math and posting it than people becoming misinformed on an important political topic. I think that’s what OP was after.

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Unhealthy to prove your point by doing the math and helping convince people with an illustration? That’s just good practice on critical thinking. Maybe you need to go take a stroll around the block.

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Fuck /fuckcars

They actually want to bulldoze so much, just so we can cram more people in closer together. And no, no one wants to be walking around when its 90+ degrees out, or literally freezing.

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Yeah, they’re pretty much ACAB now but cars instead of cops.

EDIT: Before anyone even says it. Bad cops suck. Cars do not suck. Big lifted trucks are ass. I wish I could make a 4 wheeler street legal.

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6 points

Cars absolutely do suck.

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I make a living out of my car, so in my case, I’ll just have to disagree.

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You sound like such a baby.

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We’re all babies here. Every. Single. One of us. Bebe.

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We sure are but I’m not throwing a hissy fit at the thought of being outside.

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Ive never seen any calls to bulldoze anything. We do a lot of complaining about how much was bulldozed to fill landscapes with stroads and parking lots. And dont act like we’re not calling for buses and trains as well. Have you stopped and thought about why it’s too hot to walk around now?

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Now? Its been too hot since the dinosaurs walked the planet.

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Ill give you the benefit of the doubt that you mean even if it was pre-global warming cooler it’d be too hot to walk. It’s still extended those periods where it’s too hot and cold to walk. Plus, again, we also call for buses and trains and trams for your air conditioned travel needs.

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“We should allow higher density and missing middle housing to be built and promote alternatives to cars” == “We want to bulldoze everything”?

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They throw out all nuance and have absolutely no empathy or consideration that others need to live differently than them. Or hell, need to live differently than them in order to support their own lifestyle. I swear 90% of them have never lived outside the city they were born in.

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I generally agree with you about fuckcars. They’re sanctimonious assholes. But when it comes to housing, suburban sprawl is always bad.

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OK so the majority of people has to cut back on so much, especially a safe environment to get places, just so a few people with a car fetish can keep buying bigger and bigger cars. Got it.

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We’re very quickly moving to a place where the QUANTITY of people is so high, the QUALITY of their lifestyles have to be sacrificed to cut down on human impact. The impoverished/developing world has very low impact, at huge cost to their quality of life. Who wants to volunteer to live like sub-saharan Africans, or Indians in abject poverty to cut down on human impact? I’m certain they don’t want that life - and why should they? I’m sure they would like to travel on a jet to a beach vacation like those in more affluent countries do.

I’m calling this eco-austerity. Instead of publicizing overpopulation and promoting low birth rates, we’re expected to belt tighten and give up on quality of life. It’s bullshit. We should have <1B people living like kings, not 10B people living like peasants.

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This is exactly the point I’ve been making to them. I think it’s a bunch of people who have never lived outside of a major city, or grew up in new-construction actual suburban hell like Phoenix, DFW, Vegas, most of FL etc. Try old Midwest small city suburbs by comparison. Maybe parts of the northeast.

They probably couldn’t afford a car after used car prices spiked sometime between 2000-2010, and never experienced the freedom and autonomy. They can’t imagine not being into a downtown club scene - it hasn’t dawned on them that they will probably grow up and hate living in a congested apartment world and might want to stretch out in a bigger house in a quiet neighborhood. It’s never occurred to them that not everyone works from home and their spouse may need to take a job 20 miles in the opposite direction.

Do you sell your house because your job changed? Get divorced because your partner’s job changed? You can’t have ALL of the employment in easy reach by public transit from your home. This ideal-city with perfect transit and no commute is a handwave. UNLESS you live in a sufficiently small town that has everything but hasn’t blown up yet - and those aren’t dense enough for transit, and require personal vehicles.

Public transit is also more inconvenient than convenient even if you give it a maximum advantage in density and stipulate that the trains will run 24/7 and frequently (NYC).

It’s just inexperience with life or being an urban loving weirdo who can’t imagine that other perspectives exist. I want to spend all of my free time in places you couldn’t service with transit. They can’t even imagine it.

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And no, no one wants to be walking around when its 90+ degrees out

That’s why they want shade, goober.

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Even with shade, it’s hot.

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