“One thing we have really found is a place to feel comfortable being ourselves,” Dean said. Americans are segregating by their politics at a rapid clip, helping fuel the greatest divide between the states in modern history.

One party controls the entire legislature in all but two states. In 28 states, the party in control has a supermajority in at least one legislative chamber — which means the majority party has so many lawmakers that they can override a governor’s veto. Not that that would be necessary in most cases, as only 10 states have governors of different parties than the one that controls the legislature

This can only end badly as conservatives seem to have no problem ruling over land in empty states.

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the US will break up like the USSR in my lifetime.

It’s going to be messy, and there’s going to be some serious consequences for certain states that wanted to control their own laws based on Church/Hate despite being completely unable to go it alone economically.

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It’s gonna be that or fascism for everyone, so I’ll take the messy breakup.

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Considering how things are going here in Urop, unfortunately I think fascism for everyone is what’s going to happen in the coming decades. Ask yourself how easy it will be to get rid of fascist dictatorships that have panopticon-level surveillance capabilities and far reaching control of the media landscape including traditional media and the Internet

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nah. i mean, maybe stable authoritarianism is a risk, but its not currently what’s happening. we can catastrophize about what will happen decades from now all we want, but the fact that fascists exist right now doesn’t mean they’re gonna win, or that they will organize an effective surveillance state, or that that surveillance state will last. all it means is that we have bigots screeching about bigotry, which historically is nothing new whatsoever, and even if we’re ramping up to nazi 2.0, our response should be the same. fight back.

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Oh, I know. I’m just trying to get people to stop eliminating the one option that might spare us.

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Conservatives want to eradicate anyone that isn’t Straight, White, and Christian, so why would I ever move to a red state if I’m not in that group?

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Right? I just want to live around people I’m not certain would shoot me if there were no consequences.

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Affordable housing.

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Built with zero regulations so it falls apart in two years.

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You mean land that is cheap because, by definition, people don’t want to live there? Blue areas aren’t expensive because of failed policies, they’re expensive because successful policies (in the context of liberal capitalism) make them highly coveted locations, and housing markets follow that supply and demand thing of which capitalists are so fond.

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I agree it’s not great, but red states are actively persecuting minorities. Why would a minority willingly stay in a red state at this point? And if you’re an ally or liberal or whatever and see what’s happening clearly, why would you stay and be a part of it?

Polarization is the logical outcome of Republican policies.

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It’s an interesting dilemma. As one example, I feel a tinge of regret that two blue votes are leaving Texas when my partner and I leave. On the other, which of us are obligated to stay and sacrifice personal security or comfort for an uncertain political “battle”?

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If there was a way to coordinate support for blue voters in red states, it would certainly help out. Don’t know what that would look like exactly. But a big part of the problem is isolation. So a support network it’s necessary.

Still wouldn’t be an ideal situation. But decent formal support might attract more volunteers.

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Honestly? We should cut them off.

All these red states rely on blue states for their money. They literally couldn’t afford to have roads and schools if it wasn’t for federal funding paid for by states with healthier economies and more liberal policies (no coincidence).

So let’s take their fucking money. They want to drive the country into the dirt? Let them pay their own way and we’ll sit in our relatively progressive bubbles until they realize they do, in fact, need us.

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100% agreed, not sure why we’re subsidizing an entire third world country stapled to America that wants to drag us back to the dark ages and use our own money to do so.

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I’ve contacted my state level Democratic party representatives! You should too! If enough people bring the idea forward, maybe they’ll use it!

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The problem is that the real divide still is urban vs rural, not state v state. I always lived in red states and am very leftist. There’s always strong leftist communities in every red state, even in small cities. Every state is less than 10% off from true purple last I checked.

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Yeah, the urban/rural divide is awful, so now the question, how does that get addressed?

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Democrats need to offer financial incentives to help bring back jobs to rural areas. There needs to be something to counteract republicans using Christian out as a means to get votes. Until that happens you want see the left winning anything in rural areas. It sucks but the democrat platform tends to heavily favor cities.

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How can you compete with an echo-chamber of lies?

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I can see how a platform built on internet access to rural areas could really negate the need for local jobs. You could be educated online and work remote jobs from anywhere. A lot of tech people are moving to rural areas for this reason. Unfortunately I don’t think rural people are very interested in that kind of work, but their children are.

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Why can’t we admit rual areas are a failure and get people closer to where they work and what they provide?

Farms have been living on government hand outs for decades. It’s just unfair to act like rural areas arent ALREADY taking more than they give.

Rural America is a failed state.

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We also need to figure out how to get people to stop choosing the worst possible reponses to crises all the fucking time. “Oh wages are stagnating? I want to commit genocide against trans people now! THIS MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND I AM A GOOD FACTS AND LOGIC BOY!!1!” ~Strawberry

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People know that. But power isn’t divided that way. So when people look to alternatives to federal power, they usually look to the existing political infrastructure of states, not, for instance, less-organized/-powerful counties.

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I’m in MTG’s district, the thought has definitely crossed my mind to leave. But this is my home, and it’s going to have to take something truly horrific for me to leave. Honestly, I feel that a situation like that is inevitable at this point, but I’m staying put until I can’t.

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