What a disingenuous statement. By not agreeing to do it he is complicit in major acts of war, i.e. whatever attacks the Russians do with their fleet. What a tosser.
so while I hate this guy, starlink is complicit in the war either way. either for russia, or for ukraine.
Starlink was specifically agreed for civilian use only. It’s the Ukraine who tries to breach that agreement, SpaceX simply doesn’t want to be accused of exporting weapons
That’s a bullshit excuse used by Melon’s fan boys.
Whether the technology is restricted by ITAR isn’t based whether it was ever used as a weapon, but whether the US government thinks it can be used as a weapon.
And the US government was left scrambling to get a formal contract in for Ukrainian access after Musk started to publicly spout pro kremlin shit. So there’s no way an ITAR argument could fly: the DoD wanted a contract to help ensure starlink availability for fucks sake, especially since Musk proved unreliable and a useful idiot for Putin’s wildest assplay desires.
Yeah, if a much larger country was invading, shelling apartment buildings, mining the fuck out of farmland and murdering thousands of people, I’d probably breach a ToS.
Also, that sounds a bit absurd considering he just got the US DoD to pay for Ukraine’s starlink service.
Also that larger country is firing missiles from ships in the Black Sea, and many of those missiles do kill civilians.
Also using those ships to disrupt grain shipments which is causing issues with the food supply world wide.
The way he phrases it is as if Ukraine asked him to enable them to make the attack. They asked him to switch it back on, because he had explicitly disabled service in the area, after giving the devices to Ukraine in the first place.
So they can Netflix and chill during the Russian invasion. That’s definitely what these devices were for. No way Elon could’ve known there was any military usage in a country desperately fighting for it’s existance.
He’s said as much… That’s the really fucked up part. He’s behind
“Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes”. -Elon Musk
Like… ‘don’t worry about the war crimes, just Netflix and chill, Ukraine.’
Fuck Elon Musk.
Uber wealthy private citizens able to control the path of wars in countries they don’t live in.
That’s some dystopian shit.
Not to this degree. Musk is the richest person ever to have lived. He’s got more money than most nations on the planet have ever had, comparatively. His wealth, power, and influence are obscene.
His wealth is currently growing at $14.75 million per hour. He could spend a million dollars every day for a thousand years and still be the richest person on earth.
I don’t think many people can fathom how extreme his wealth hoarding actually is. It’s literally mind-boggling. He could single-handedly solve the hunger crisis planet-wide and make a huge impact on the climate crisis, but instead he uses his money to fellate himself, take credit for others’ work, and ruin things.
In the past, kings and barons have only wished to have the money and power he wields, and this is what he’s doing with it. It’s absolutely shameful.
I don’t think so. For example, isn’t it believed that Rothschild was a large contributing factor to The War of 1812?
I’d imagine a lot of those “old money” families dabbled throughout history
Quite a few supporters for independence in America’s revolutionary war against England were quite wealthy, and stood to make very good money with an independent US. Hancock was one of them.
I don’t know if I’d say that was the entire reason for the war of independence, but I think it was substantial enough that we can consider it an example in this case.
It’s important to note that the company, and the technology being used was not created by him, too. He just bought it… And now he’s doing evil things with it while he pretends he’s some sort of anti-war hero.
Like… Congratulations, douchebag, you helped a defend an evil superpower during their active, unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation involving countless war crimes and crimes against humanity. What a fuckin’ hero you are, Elon.
“If I had agreed to their request, then spacex would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t SpaceX be explicitly complicit in conflict escalation by interfering with Ukraine’s ability to defend itself?
Now that it’s shown he is explicitly monitoring each attach by Ukraine, it shows he is responsible for every other attack that has used starlink.
It also shows that starlink is monitoring its traffic and use at an unexpected level.
This action shows Elon is 100% responsible for every other attack. This is why companies don’t usually do this.
Well at the very least you have to agree, that he was in quite a dilemma. If he allows it, he interferes by action. If he doesn’t, he interferes by inaction.
To him, and to me too, inaction seems more impartial, which is probably all he cares about at this point, and once again it’s what I would probably care about too.
You can be mad at someone who is impartial, but at the end of the day, the only thing you are mad at, is them not doing jack-shit, which of course can be very annoying.
Not really since its already being used by the military, knowingly and deliberately provided.
So he’s already active.
He had a choice in his hands with privileged information, then he chose the Russian side. This declarations are just justification to wash his hands, he is team Putin all the way, always has been. He has been seen partying with Russian oligarchs. The reason he bought SpaceX was because his original idea of buying dismantled ICBMs from his rusky arms dealer pals was too incredibly stupid to pull off, and it was easier to do it by way of an aerospace company.
Starlink service was bought by Ukraine to provide internet access to civilians and the military. Technically it was provided by the US because Musk offered to, for free initially, though he later pedalled back to charge inordinate amounts of money. Which the US and UA agreed to pay anyway. Because single companies monopolizing entire control to fundamental services is a huge issue. War time or not. He is profiteering and unfortunately owns the only company that can provide this specific kind of service. But in strategic matters, he will always go to bat for his BFF Vova.
Elon musk is not a military entity. He is a private citizen. His taxes just like yours and mine are going into this war. But he is also providing starlink to the civilian population as a humanitarian gesture. Expecting every private citizen to get up and wield a weapon against Russia for Ukraine is not realistic, nor does refusal to do so make you complicit in helping Russia. Just like being a conscientious objector in Vietnam didn’t make you complicit in supporting the Viet Kong.
No dude, NO! Elon is being paid BILLIONS by various nato entities to provide all of Ukraine , including and especially the military, a communication networks within their territory because Russia blew theirs up.
Crimea is Ukraine. Elon disagrees.
According to CNBC, SpaceX is funding Starlink in Ukraine, not the government:
“Musk reportedly told the Pentagon in October he would no longer finance the Starlink terminals in Ukraine as the country prepared to fight through the harsh winter months. However, the billionaire reversed course and did continue to fund the service.”
Elon doesn’t get it. He is neck deep in it. With his denying he helps the Invaders whereas with his allowance he would have helped ukraine fighting for their freedom.
He should be put on a list now imho.
Moscow simply paid him more than Kyiv. Probably accompanied by the phrase “Would be a shame if these pictures got out”.
The video involving an excessively bear like Russian man and Musk bent over saying “Use me daddy!”, while wearing nothing but a pair of frilly, white, crotchless panties?
Kiev isn’t paying NATO is to the tune of billions a month. He is charging like 30k a terminal. This war is actmakinv starlink money. Like a full on profit since no home user can pay 30k a year per terminal . It’s billions a month.
