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Hey Hexbear, if you’re dropping by, let me know when Russian and Chinese workers seize the means of production.

In the meantime I’m sitting here oppressed in Norway.

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Not a commie, but didn’t the Norwegian people nationalize the oil production, leasing it out to companies while keeping a huge share of the profit for the welfare of common Norwegians?

My understanding is that, in a sense, that is exactly what seizing the means of production is about.

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Means: seized.

Snow: plowed.

Lute: fisked.

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Hotel: Trivago.

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Controlling the natural resources a country and leasing it out it private companies is pretty standard practice in most non corrupt countries. Norway probably differs in that they capture more of the economic rent in part due to a more efficient tax and a share of public ownership.

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That sounds to me more like a merger of corporation and state.

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Nope. The people making these policies laid the plans for nationalizing the natural resources of Norway while in German concentration camps, where they were sent precisely because they were socialists. They are the primary reason, along with the discovery of oil and gas, for Norway being one of the richest countries on earth per capita. That the extraction of natural resources is under democratic control and under a somewhat high taxation scheme is not evidence of a fascist state-corp merger, but something that should be the default in all countries around the world to combat imperialist capital interests (except that the taxes should be even higher).

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Polling says that Norway is #7 happiest country on Earth. Finland is #1, Denmark is #2…I wonder where China is on that list OwO

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Bruh, we have oppressed people in Norway. Did you forget that our own supreme court ruled that some of our wind mills at Fosen are in violation of UN law of civil and political rights (source in Norwegian). That was two years ago and they are still standing, which is especially bad due to the historical repression and attempts at ethnic cleansing of Sámi people in Norway, that was going on for a disturbingly long time. Now, as a quick caveat I will add that on a global scale we are doing pretty alright. However, that you are fortunate and well, for which I am glad, does not mean that the sentiment of the meme is wrong. Since the 70s much of the good systems we built have been demolished by laissez-faire politics and politicians, like your beloved “Jern-Erna”, lowering corporate taxes and allowing for privatization of public services (our railway system, healthcare and so on). I also don’t think many people from Hexbear are deluded enough to believe in imminent revolution in Russia nor conflating the Russian government with the Communist Party of China (though I might suspect you do), making your comment either worthless or in bad faith (we both know it is both). Either way, I support seizing the means of production and voted for my convictions today. Even though I believe I probably fundamentally disagree with you, I hope you did too. Leave the “all communists are tankie fascists” idea at home please. It only makes you look ignorant and a bad representative for our nice little country.

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… You realize Norway is one of the examples we use of a successful socialist state right?

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norway isn’t socialist, but a social democracy where they move all the unethical labour somewhere else. it’s miles better than neoliberalism, but it’s still capitalist

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… You do realize we hear most internet communists we come across argue that we’d be so much better if we were run like Russian or China?

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Those guys are idiots.

Best solution for Norway is to continue exporting undesirable labor like they’ve been doing, until the oil runs out, out demand dries up. Not sure what you’ll do then but you won’t be alone anyway.

It’s not best for everyone, by any means. But it’s best for Norway.

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Damn, that’s a crazy red scare into yellow peril combo.

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Not hexbear but aren’t you Norwegians an oppressive oil state? You guys were bombing brown people for fun a couple of years back. Isn’t Stoltenburg one of your guys? He just admitted to intentionally provoking the Russian invasion.

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17 points

Reads like a parody but there’s a good chance it’s not.

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Well they’re from Lemmygrad so that “good chance it’s not” can instantly be elevated to “definitely not joking”.

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12 points

You what now?

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Oh look! A commie!

Say hi when you meet our little black sparrow-sized drones. All you have to do to earn a visit is mention how we fucked over the Sami, we really don’t like those things. Oh, and don’t insult Jern-Erna if she gets back in power, she’ll divebomb you and leave nothing but a crater. Say what you will about Støre, he’s a soggy twig.

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43 points

If the Revolution happens before 9 I’m not going

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or on Sundays

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Or in August

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Gods, fuck August!

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Every day since the 19th century…any day now

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12 points

We seized some means of production… sort of?

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There have been at least two different countries seize the means of production over the years, it didn’t really work out for either of them. Turns out they just swapped one bourgeoise class for another, while the peasants and proles starved.

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What you said is fractally wrong.

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2 points

Pretty hilarious to see a guy from a capitalist shithole that’s tearing itself apart acting all smug. Never gets old.

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As hilarious as seeing a guy from a capitalist country fantasising over a fake communist country

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I love how being able to criticize a country you live in is hilarious for you. Says a lot about you really. Doubly hilarious that you think China is fake communist. It’s such an important cope for westies, cause accepting that a communist country does everything better than your beloved capitalism is a hard pill to swallow.

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31 points

The pig should shut up. It’s time to wake up the sheep.

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I love to start the day with a little bit of revolution and freshly smoked bacon.

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fuck off tankie

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I smell smoke, but do I smell bacon?

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Reminds me of animal farm

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My thoughts too, with a pig being opposed

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Two legs bad!

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Unrelated, but “I can read the Fnords!” Tell Hagbar I said hey.

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