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common furry L

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Furries are like one of the main customers of artists

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Damn, y’all just blow in from 2005?

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I promise you that you are not more normal.

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You are the main customer of 3rd grade school yard insults

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they are also one of the main driving forces of custom trained generative image models tho.

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As they should be

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Takes out popcorn from the microwave

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But isn’t the reply is right?

What’s the relation between using other people art and the user credentials? Should the AI art okay as long as the one published it already has good credentials?

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This isn’t about “good credentials”, the person making the post was actually an animator for Invincible (where the image is from).

So it’s the artist posting a meme with their own art from a series, someone accusing them of stealing the art (saying they are as bad as AI) while the artist was actually part of the team that made the series. What is there not to get?

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That the image is from anime called Invincible, sorry not knowing that

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Check it out if you have a chance, it’s pretty good, and I’m not usually into animated stuff.

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Lmao Invincible isn’t an anime

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I didn’t know that either. It was more than obvious from the context.

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And aside, memes are memes, that specific image conveys a concept in a way that another, custom made, image wouldn’t.

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Invincible (where the image is from).

Are we all expected to just know that?

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Not at all, but this is how this sub works. It usually goes:

  1. Person A posts something

  2. Person B tells them they stole it or have no clue about the topic

  3. Someone brings up that Person A is actually the owner of the thing, or a leading expert in the field (see the right side of the the meme in this case)

  4. (optional) Person B finds out they are dumb and apologize

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13 points

Context. Are we still doing that?

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No… that’s why they added the part on the right.

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You’re expected to infer that it’s from one of the shows listed on the right, both because the creator’s name is listed there and because the community’s name is “Don’t You Know Who I Am?”

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I literally had never heard of Jessie Lam, or seen or heard of the invincibles before this post. I inferred that they were one of the artists for that show based on the words and context in the images in the 12 seconds it took me to read it.

You’re just dumb, sorry buddy.

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I had no idea until you explained it. I’m not familiar with any of that content. So thank you.

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But couldn’t it be easily inferred from the right-side of the image?

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The original poster (Jessie Lam) worked on Invincible as an animator, so they did use their own art for that meme, which is a screenshot from Invincible.

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Yet the original characters Invincible and Omni-man were created by Robert Kirkman, who did not illustrate the original comicbooks (I think). Man, this thing goes deeeep.

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The point being?

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The picture in the meme is a screenshot from the show. It’s not about who created the characters or drew the original comics, it’s about who drew that screenshot.

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It isn’t as deep as you think it is

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On the other hand… animators usually sell their work to the studio… so “technically” it is no longer “theirs”, they have no right to use a copy without the studio’s permission… 🤷

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They aren’t really talking about the copyright in this context. Also artists can usually still claim the work they did with a studio as their own and show it to others at their discretion, they in fact usually put their work in their portfolio to show to potential future employers, or other animators, or even just an online following. Spencer Wan for example likes to post the line tests/animation tests/keyframes/storyboards/etc for some of his animation sequences on twitter, and has done so for Castlevania, The Owl House, Spider-verse, etc. Animators just can’t sell the same work for profit or provide the completed project in its entirety, at least not without permission. There may be restrictions on how early they can show their work publicly depending on the contract, but that’s usually to prevent major spoilers or leaks, and varies between studios/projects. Also, they still get credited for their work in the project they worked on in the credits, so it’s not like they would be completely divorced from it even if they weren’t allowed to share it separately. It’s still classified as “their” work.

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Public education has gone down hill. Reading comprehension is at an all time low

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sorry, meme recognition wasn’t taught in here

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54 points

Meme recognition? It’s just reading the fucking text that’s right there, dork.

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68 points

When the “good credentials” are “drew the art”…

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Did that person draw that specific frame all by themselves? If no then it’s still using others’ copyrighted work + own input.

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They also were inspired by other creations. Like Superman’s strength and flight ability.

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Exactly. It’s like Elon pointing at a SpaceX rocket and saying that he made it.

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Everything is inspired by something.

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It shouldn’t be. That’d stealing work from others and I doubt most are paying the original artist

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The only true artist is Ooonga Baloonga, who invented art when he drew something roughly resembling an animal on a random cave wall 6 bajillion years ago. Everything since then is derivative bullshit, lifeless imitations of his unique vision.

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That’s the argument they’re making against people who think LLMs are inherently theft.

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I bet the first painting wasn’t of an animal, it was probably porn a fertility deity.

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That’s the point. It’s supposed to be a facsimile of s man. The whole plot of the show is a critique of comic book tropes and the consequences of idolizing superheroes etc

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It’s absolutely incredible that people are such bootlickers for billionaire projects that they’ll see this tremendous slam dunk and then go to the comments trying to defend the person who just got dunked. Like, seriously, you really think that’s going to convince people?!

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Yeah the ball went in the hoop, but this is also essentially trashing the entirety of meme and edit culture.

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Funny how Luddite paint pigs were perfectly fine when Microsoft’s dalle was the only player in the game and didn’t start screeching about ai until after open source image generation software got released. And yet you conservatives still call people bootlickers.

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What the fuck are you talking about?

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I’m probably more liberal than you, and you’re a moron.

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The characters in the meme are literally on the cover of the first pictured show in her credit roll.

The meme was pulled from a show that SHE animated

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That’s literally her art.

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Wonderful.

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