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I think allergy suffers already have known this for years… The stuff that works is locked up because it can be used to make meth…

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Yes, it’s pseudoephedrine that you want. Somewhat ironic that Sudafed got its brandname from it, but you can’t easily get the original version anymore.

Edited: corrected for availibility of the Sudafed - thanks Blue and Cubby.

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You can still get it, you have to go to the pharmacy in the back and give your ID though. Limited to like 5 packs a month which is more than plenty unless you’re making meth with it

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It’s easy to hire lots of people to buy their allotment and give it to you.

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I don’t think it actually did anything to stop meth production either. It just shifted more business to the cartels.

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A frustrating outcome. I used to buy 14 day packs of allergy meds and sometimes didn’t qualify to buy more two or even four days after I ran out. I don’t know what aspect of their restrictions allow this to happen, but it’s bullshit. Also, good luck if you’re going overseas for a month and need a full supply. I believe a doc can prescribe a larger supply, but I shouldn’t have to pay more money and time for a doc appointment to get that.

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One thing I’ve realized about US healthcare is that it would rather restrict meds from those that need them than to give access to those that would abuse it.

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That’s definitely what they’ve done with opioids. You could have your bone sticking out of your arm and they’d call you a drug addict for being surprised when they give you a motrin.

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Any backyard chemsit can make meth if they are skilled enough

Nile Red likely has the capability of doing that

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Nile Red is more than a backyard chemist lol he has a lab

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Probably in the minority here but I didn’t know that Benadryl straight up doesn’t work as a decongestant. It knocks me the fuck out though, so I wonder if it’s effective at making you drowsy as shit and not much else.

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The person you replied to was talking about pseudoephedrine, which is marketed as a decongestant. And boy does it get the job done.

Benedryl (diphenhydramine), on the other hand, is an anti-histimine and it absolutely works for allergic reactions. That said, it’s also marketed as a sleep aid (take a look at the active chemical in things like “ZZZQuil” or drug store brand “sleep aid,” and compare it to the one in Benedryl. Same chemical), and believe me, it works very well for that.

I dunno if I would use it as a decongestant.

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Yep I mixed up the ingredients lists. I don’t know if I’ve ever even tried sudafed PE.

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Benadryl is one of the stronger sedatives, prescription or not, if I recall correctly (CPhT, lapsed)

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Representatives for the Consumer Healthcare Products Association, a group that represents OTC drug manufacturers, did not offer any new evidence to counter the FDA’s claims that the drug is ineffective during their presentation Monday.

The group instead said that if oral phenylephrine were not available over the counter, it would be a significant burden to consumers.

But it doesn’t work! Consumers are literally using something that’s no better than the naturopathic bullshit found in the next aisle over!

MAN I hate corporate lobbyists. Outright lying to try and save face.

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“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” -Upton Sinclair

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It’s because the DEA restricted pseudoephedrine, which does work. Duck the war on drugs

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Yes, I NEED this shit like 2-3 months of the year due to a severe winter cedar allergy. I can barely function without a strong decongestant and having to show my ID and jump through hoops at the pharmacy to get it instead of just grabbing some off a shelf is so frustrating.

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Lol, thinking that the naturopathic shit isnt sitting on the same shelves with almost identical packaging to real medicine.

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it would be a significant burden to consumers our share prices

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Burden to consumers = burden to our profits for selling useless bullshit

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No shit. The fun part is it DOES have side effects. So it doesn’t do what it’s proclaimed to do, but is a drug. It should be pulled off the shelves.

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I’ve been dehydrating myself for shits and giggles apparently lol

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Super interestingly, in clinical trials it is less effective than the placebo.

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With statistical significance?

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Should I be investing in placebo allergy pills?

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