Unity: We have to charge for every install because we only see totals. Also Unity: We can tell which install is which, so you won’t be overcharged.

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Has anybody send Unity a GDPR request? I’d be curious what data they collect to make install tracking possible.

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Sounds trustworthy to me! /s

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Don’t worry bro, if we make a terribly designed system that directly benefits our bottom line, we will totally fix it and make it fair. Trust us.

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What does ‘install’ mean here anyway? Most unity games I play are either distributed as archives or installed through third party launchers.

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So what is a better game engine to use now?

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Godot is FOSS.

Unreal is decent too i guess but… not free. (Though iirc its free if you publish your game on epic)

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Unreal for “commercial, highly documented, also an industry standard”

Godot for “this is actually libre software and you can trust it to not enshittify itself in a couple years”

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This is the perfect answer.

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Godot

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Was Unity lying yesterday or are they lying today?

Yes and yes. It’s not an either-or situation.

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Good point, they can’t both be true…but they CAN both be false. I’m hiring you as my lawyer.

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Well it kind of is. Either they can differentiate between a new install and a repeat install, or they can’t.

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It’s also possible that they can’t track new installs either.

FAQ:

How is Unity collecting the number of installs?

We leverage our own proprietary data model and will provide estimates of the number of times the runtime is distributed for a given project – this estimate will cover an invoice for all platforms.

Which is some kind of weird nebulous BS.

They’re not saying their engine phones home and/or collects data from end-user devices. With the associated data protection nightmares.

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Oof. This is corporate lingo for “we’ll pull a number out of our ass and charge the dev accordingly”. “Proprietary data model” makes it clear they intend to remain conveniently (for them) opaque about it.

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If they see things other than the totals and devs will still be overcharged, then they have lied both times

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