As white supremacists from as far as Canada revel in intimidating Sunshine State residents, critics blast DeSantis for his silence
So whats the reason they aren’t immediately put in handcuffs? This shit wouldn’t fly in Germany
we have this thing called freedom of speech that allows them to do a lot of the things they do
It’s more that the US is all about personal liberty and personal freedoms. Other places that you’re referring to have a charter of rights, which still allow for personal freedoms but are also constructed to protect minorities or at risk groups, like Jewish people.
That said the Bill of Rights that the Americans produced was first of it’s kind and amazing. Personally I just don’t think they got it quite right and charter of rights take into account the personal liberties of all people and not just the dominant majority.
Freedom of speech. Everyone is able to be heard, even if their opinions are distasteful. It’s what the US was built on and why people can fly swastikas and wear klan hoods without being arrested.
They can only be arrested if they commit a crime, not because their views are horrible. You can walk down the street yelling racial slurs at everyone and that’s perfectly legal as long as you aren’t being violent or inciting others to violence.
That doesn’t mean society has to tolerate them - counter-protesting is alive and well, and Nazis have been fired from their jobs for their views. But the government can’t arrest them simply for being Nazis.
I mean that’s a nice fantasy you have there but in America that’s just not how it works
I mean, we also have freedom of speech here in Germany. There are (harsh) limitations around hate speech and insults but besides that you can say what you want.
What’s also a definite no are nazi symbols. Swastikas, SS runes, nazi salutes, etc. are only ever allowed in the context of education and art (like period films and as of fairly recently, games).
We also still do have regular day to day nazis in Germany and sadly the far right party AfD has been growing in numbers over the last few years, taking a lot of inspiration from US republicans in their talking points and rhetoric. Since July they are in a county government for the first time, having only ever been an opposition party until then.
Germany wasn’t built on the principles of freedom (of speech) but that human dignity is inviolable. That’s Art. 1 of our constitution. Only Art. 2 then defines personal freedom.
Is “Jews get the rope” an incitement to violence? Because these recent rallies seem to be hitting very close to what are the commonly-accepted limits on free speech in America.
Is “eat the rich” or a guillotine reference a call for violence?
You’re legally allowed to say awful shit, you just can’t act on it, or have a reasonable suspiscion that you may imminently act on it.
One of the reasons I love that I’m in Germany rn. You don’t get people casually joking about Nazis then laughing it off like it’s nothing. It is literally against the law, and people treat that topic with actual respect.
Except… you do, and it’s apparently gotten very bad in places. Florida level bad.
Jesus fucking Christ. I’d say that’s worse than Florida in some ways. There was an incident where 50 teenagers went looking for black people to kill!? That’s straight up klan behavior! What the actual fuck!?
That’s right, it depends on the place. Very much boils down to rural vs. urban (as in so many countries) but it’s also a bit worse in Eastern Germany.
However the comment above is not wrong, in that there are definitive limits to free speech in German law so that you have more legal levers against nazis before they turn to violence.
Nice face tattoos, those really say “I’m an intelligent, educated and reasonable person and totally not riddled with mental health issues”
I don’t think you need to veer into shitting on people who like or have body modifications. This dude’s a fucking Nazi because he wants to be, not because he has a face tattoo.
Interesting point, I guess?
I’m sorry, it may be judgmental, but if I see somebody with face tattoos, it doesn’t say “high intellectual level” to me, especially at the level of this guy. I’m seriously wondering here what face tattoo would say “I’m intelligent”, which one would say “I’m highly educated”, which would say “I’m a reasonable person” and which one would say “I’m not riddled with mental health issues”…
For the first two: I’m sorry. Do with your body what you wish, put a ring through your ass if you like (that must be fun on the toilet!) I don’t care. But in current society, your face is your calling card. If you have purple hair with 2 nose rings and a bunch of tattoos, don’t complain if you’re not hired to be the face of any organization whatsoever. If you put a tattoo on your face, of all places, you simply make your life a lot harder in practice. How many intellectuals do you know that look like our buddy on the OP article? I don’t know any.
For the third one: I guess there are Buddhist monks that have facial tattoos? I honestly wouldn’t know, but I’m betting good money that they still don’t look like our slightly mentally deficient buddy upstairs
For the fourth: Yeeaaaahhh… Unfortunately, people with mental health issues don’t always take the best decisions for themselves. Consequently, a lot of them are homeless (not judging at all here, they need help) a lot of them are addicts (again, not judging, it is what it is) and a lot of them get things like very highly visible body modifications.
In case of our little asshole up there in the article: Dude, don’t tell me that you think that this guy has even a basic education (he likely doesn’t), let alone is an intellectual, that you think he’s intelligent (oh boy, oh boy, is he not), that you think he’s reasonable (Yeaaaahhh, press X to doubt) or that you think he isn’t riddled with mental health issues (I’m betting good money that he has a list of issues that require professional health to fix)
I’m sorry, I may be judgemental but if you look like that, you have problems.
Both the way you look and the decision to modify any part of your body has no bearing whatsoever on your level of intelligence. Full stop. It’s incredibly irrational to believe so. Just because within your social circle of operation face tattoos are prejudiced against does not mean that you need to continue to perpetuate that bigotry and ignorance.
Being judgemental aides no one. Given enough scrutiny anyone can appear abnormal or ‘incorrect’ according to societal norms and thus can be unjustly ostracized if people continue to think as you do.
