187 points

On an unrelated note, suddenly, boomers care about affordable housing for no apparent reason.

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87 points

For them. Everyone else needs to use their bootstraps.

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27 points

Bingo!

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-74 points

I still everyone thinks that boomer`s houses magically built themself and cost nothing. No interest was payed for the loan and the time there where built money rained from the sky.

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59 points

Tell me more about how you want every to know that you know nothing about the changes to monetary policy, socio-economic issues, or regulatory change that has happened since the mid-70’s.

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53 points

If you think that, I know you’re unfamiliar with the economy and real estate.

They bought them, yes. In fact, they had higher interest rates! My dad’s first mortgage in the 80s was at 17%…but the loan was less than 2 years of his salary which made his payments pretty easy. Now I’m expecting to have to pay 5-6x my salary for a similar home.

And to get ahead of some rebuttals: adjusted for inflation, I am making more than he did at the time so it’s not that. And the homes I’m looking at are in less desirable neighborhoods than I grew up in so it’s not that either.

Furthermore, his parents’ generation wasn’t hoarding real estate for Airbnb rentals.

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Also, there has been a drop in new housing construction since 2008.

There was a massive multigenerational push to build new housing, with government agencies either facilitating new construction with infrastructure or helping to fund its construction.

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-8 points

Hey wasn’t Airbnb started by millennials?

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if he bought his first home in the 80’s then your dad is a really young boomer to. or waited awhile for some reason. anyway there is a different with each generation over the 20 year span. not that it makes much of a difference when things are great. just older boomers had it a bit better even. The basic pattern is the younger the worse you have it if you where born in the 70’s or later. I really can’t fanthom why people are still having kids.

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9 points

Okay boomer

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21 points

Money does rain from the sky if you properly tax the rich.

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7 points

Why would the rich do that to themselves?

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-1 points

Nice strawman argument, clown shoes.

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6 points

Obvious troll is obvious

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-5 points

People also fail to factor in the difference in ameneties between boomers’ 2 bedroom, single floor, no-garage house vs what people demand today

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6 points

I’m actively searching for a house to buy - smaller than the one that what I grew up in - and while you’re right about people wanting more space, it does not matter. Homes are disproportionally more expensive than they were in the 80s

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4 points

Is it demand or is it a question of builders wanting to maximize profits by building larger homes vs small starter homes?

https://realestate.usnews.com/real-estate/articles/what-is-a-starter-home

Data from the Census Bureau shows that 40% of homes constructed in 1980 were considered entry-level homes. In 2019, only 7% of homes were entry-level, according to a 2021 report from Freddie Mac, and almost every state is building fewer starter homes.

“Because of the cost of labor and supplies, builders are mainly focused on building more expensive homes, since it no longer makes sense for them to build more affordable homes,” Carlton says.

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-10 points

You didn’t hear ? Things are only hard now.

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15 points

Nobody with a brain believes that straw man.

The topic is complex and nuanced but it isn’t hard to see that, say, single family homes are harder to afford now versus in the past by several measures.

Here are some examples articles…

https://anytimeestimate.com/research/housing-prices-vs-inflation/

Though the title of the following sounds like it disproves me until you get to the part about wages not keeping up.

https://www.supermoney.com/inflation-adjusted-home-prices/

Now compare the rise in the median price of a home to the median income of Americans.

if you adjust for inflation, the median income of Americans has only increased by 33%. The median housing prices, however, have increased by 60%. It’s even worse when you look at the income of younger adults. For instance, the median income of people between 25 and 34 only increased by $30 in 44 years (1974 to 2017). It’s no wonder homeownership rates among Millennials are lower than for previous generations.

Particularly in the last few years things have gotten worse.

https://cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/24/homes/home-affordability-worst-since-1984/index.html

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47 points

Suddenly boomers believe in a massive increase to social security taxes to pay for them.

I look forward to watching them die off.

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-16 points

That’s a hell of a lot of hate to admit to online.

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19 points

I’m not saying dude’s right (not saying he’s wrong, either, mind), but Boomers have been trying to choke out everyone outside of their cohort (and a significant chunk of those in their cohort, for that matter) for decades. The sooner they’re out of the way, the sooner the rest of us can start picking up the pieces they’ve left us.

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4 points

These people haven’t just hated me my entire life for being an atheist, pro LGBT, non racist, but they’ve actively done everything possible to destroy the world for everyone in it. Zero sympathy from me.

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-19 points

Ageist comments are weirdly popular on lemmy. Why is ageism encouraged when sexism and racism are not?

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Because old people are insufferable and leech off of society while continually making things worse, even well past their expiration date.

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43 points

Disclaimer: These are obviously over generalizations and don’t match all individuals.

Because it’s not the age people are against, it’s the generation. The boomer generation had some of the most prosperous years in American history and wasted them. The general idea is you’re supposed to make the world a better place for the people that come next, and they did the opposite. They cut social systems, defunded education, let public transportation die, outsourced everything, and lined their pockets with investments in oil that are killing the planet.

I won’t blame someone for being old, but I will judge them by what they did and supported during their life. And as a whole, the boomers have a lot to answer for.

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0 points

There is a huge subset of boomers that fought and voted for the betterment of society that were completely fucked by the system. Maybe a LITTLE bit of consolation and empathy for them?

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-3 points

Noticed this myself, come here less and less since it’s just as toxic as reddit ever was. Think I might be done with it since it’s just ragebait crap.

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5 points

Too bad so sad git gud

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107 points

They should cut back on avocado toast and get rid of cable.

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Nah, they should’ve sold their houses to Aquaman, and move…

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34 points

They should get rid of that land line, you know they still have one

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1 point

Why can I almost never see the hidden replies?

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Don’t worry, as the saying goes “pull yourself up by the dick”, and maybe they will gain enough wealth to become expats and gain more in foreign wealth and sex on Southeast and East Asia…, /s (Edited for clarification)

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9 points

Instructions unclear, tried unsuccessfully multiple times and now I just feel like God hates me.

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You just gotta pull yourself back up harder, my friend, remember the bootstraps and remember you d***, that’s the important part…

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83 points

Have they tried trickle down economics or maybe pulling themselves up by their bootstraps??

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6 points

Enlarged prostate and arthritis are making that difficult

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7 points

It’s a good thing they have an easy to use heath care system to rely on!!

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