Just do NSFW and PORN.
Porn is the reason for wanting a distinction, so don’t beat around the bush.
at that point it’d probably be better to just have a CW system like Mastodon
People keep saying this, but it wouldn’t allow for simple filtering, as there would be far too many unknowns.
No, the NSFL tag is more important imo. I don’t mind seeing tits randomly, I do not wanna see gore ever, period.
Even NSFL could be ideally split into NSFL and ENSFL (Extremely Not Safe for Life)
I don’t mind seeing like an X-RAY of somebody who broke their arm in 4 places, but a photo of it IRL and blood everywhere is ENSFL
But I don’t think an X-RAY would even qualify as NSFL, would it? I mean you see that factually, that probably hurts, but you get zero impression of it.
Kinda like fotos of the atomic bomb explosions from WW2. You know some people are suffering in the very moment that foto was taken, but you can’t see it, so it’s not NSFL.
Or do you have a dofferent oppinion?
That’s not what the terms are aimed at though? NSFW covers a very broad range of things. You expect it to be pork 95% of the time, so it already means that. The main thing people want to separate are things like gore, death, racism, etc. So that’s what is being asked for. Separate links out because a NSFL link should seldom be clicked on but imo deserves to exist for discussion and calling out people on legitimate issues.
I was never a fan of the “death porn” put on Reddit but I do appreciate the real and unsanitized reality of some situations when the news can’t show them.
Where even are you seeing gore? I left Reddit a while back and I miss eyeblech.
I’d rather we get rid of downvotes, serves no purpose but too “disagree”
Screw that nonsense. Trash exists and should be binned, your comment case-in-point.
Downvotes basically allows for dogpiling and allows stupid people to circlejerk. Also, i am perfectly ok with getting downvotes but others are not. These weak boned sensitive weenies delete their comments the first sign that people disagree so thats why you see everyone agreeing on everything. This is compounded with the fact that the fediverse is a series of bubbles so, for instance, i will immediately know I will disagree with someone if they have a lemmigrad or hexbear in their name.
Downvotes basically allows for dogpiling and allows stupid people to circlejerk
Upvotes can be used to dogpile misinformation and also to circle jerk. I’ve always felt this argument against down votes is weak, at best. Might as well get rid of voting entirely.
Downvotes shouldn’t be used for simply “I disagree” but “this content does not belong”, otherwise I would agree with you.
If you think something doesn’t belong just ignore it. It does no harm by existing. If the downvote does anything people will use it for disagreeing.
I think disagreeing should be should be voiced in a reply instead so it becomes clear why you disagree.
It does no harm by existing.
Wat. I mean, not all comments but there are many many times where it does. Misinformation/disinformation, general toxicity, or just being completely off-topic. These types of comments can destroy a community if left unchecked.
🔥Hot take - I think unless the post being disagreed with is some kind of troll or spam post, the op or ocer might appreciate a discussion around it.
People usually disagree because they view something from a different perspective, and most times that perspective could be a valuable thing to share IMO
Downvotes help to mitigate disinformation, ads, etc. It’s a big reason why old reddit posts are such a good resource for so many topics. When any random idiot can get their garbage upvoted at the same rate as an actually useful comment, you end up with Facebook or those copy paste/AI articles at the top of Google searches.
There are lemmy instances where downvotes are disabled. It also affects the sorting ‘algorithm’ too IIRC, so browsing on a no-downvote instance vs the opposite can yield quite a different looking feed.
It also allows you to look at content from a different perspective, rather than passing by something that’s been bonked with tons of downvotes.
Active moderation is pretty key though where there isn’t the possibility to downvote, mainly because off topic/spam content can’t be downvoted and won’t disappear from feeds unless deleted by a mod.
Lemmy mods are generally really proactive with removing spam/offtopic stuff IMO, so I’d say to give it a shot if you’re interested. A lot of no-downvote instances aren’t federated with lemmy.world though, and my current one has closed signups so it might be tricky.
NSFW and NSFL can mean different things to different people and cultures.
Best example is that in some countries, showing a boob isn’t straight away NSFW as much as it is in America.
Opposite example: In America, showing blood is almost G rated at this point (at least it feels that way to a non-American watching American media). In China you effectively can’t show blood in any media.
As has been mentioned in the comments already one solution would be more specific categories, probably customizable by site admins to suit their particular site culture. Either that or a site can stick to just a single NSFW tag to donate a more “hey, this might not be the best thing to look at”.
The distinction is made to differentiate between two very different and clearly separated categories, one being just inapproriate to show around (a boob on your phone in a public is inappropriate pretty much everywhere, not just in the puritan US) and straight disturbing content that you might never want to see, even in private.
Different customizeable categories would be needlessly complicated to implement in every client
NSFL is just another name for gore or footage of death or injury. “Not safe for life” is not a thing. There’s no actual image that can kill you unless you have epilepsy or some other form of photosensitivity. I heard “Not safe for looking” but that’s an idiotic acronym, and most people don’t interpret NSFL that way at first, and it still has the connotation that it can physically harm you for some reason.
