307 points

Nsfw, Nsfl, and “Porn”

I like nsfw memes but dont want my feed full of porn. I have a seperate account for porn.

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Yes, a renaissance artwork that contains naked women, actual hardcore porn, and a Russian soldier being blown to pieces in Ukraine, should not occupy the same “NSFW” tag…

Of course there’s going to be grey area stuff, but 3 buckets like this is much much better than a single “everything people might not want to see” bucket.

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But all the sfw porn subs ruined it.

Need a new tag like “sexporn” or “genitals”

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I think sfw porn is still porn. If we’re being honest, it’s not sfw either

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Nope. Its not. Pretty sure my boss would agree if caught with sfw porn on company laptop.

Edit - its not sfw. It’s a trap. Get an axe.

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6 points

“Who are all these people in officewear? I’ve never seen them here.”

“Um”

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1 point

CablePorn is definitely sfw

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18 points

Sounds like we’re just describing tags at this point.

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4 points

Shush your incompatible logic 😉

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2 points

SeGz

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14 points

I feel like the lines at that point get way too blurred. It would be like having a “porn” and “full blown porn” tag or hardcore versus softcore.

I will admit a distinct NSFW tag could be good for somewhat taboo stuff like mildly offensive jokes for example.

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8 points

Would be kind of hilarious. You can have one normal tag like “serious” is for ask lemmy, then a million tags like soft core, forced, NSFL, etc…

Like the fediverse would be catering to SO MUCH PORN at that point

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3 points

I don’t think it would mean much with each instance having their own rules.

I can only imagine instances arguing and defederating from each other because they have different rules regarding tagging.

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4 points

What if we just had specific tags that we could filter for. everything gets the nsfw tag but we have specific tags for nudity, violence, etc.

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I’m not sure my concern would still be blurred lines and people either forgetting to use tags or not realizing how or when to use them. For example a news article about police violence getting tagged with the violence tag on some instances but not others.

I’m also opposed to auto or over moderation and I feel like it’s one of those things that could potentially push Lemmy in that direction eventually.

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10 points

How do you actually find porn on Lemmy? I’ve tried and failed.

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14 points

Apparently lemmynsfw.com.

But it’s mostly celebrity pics, so I’m not entirely sure where else.

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9 points

You’re only seeing celebrity pics because that is the only SFW community on lemmynsfw. By default most lemmy instances hide NSFW posts unless you’re logged in with an account set to show NSFW. They are running 0.18.3-nsfwpatch, so if you navigate there directly you will see everything, but viewing lemmynsfw logged out from another instance will only show you celebrity pictures.

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You need to enable ‘NSFW’ content in settings, which probably requires an account. Without that, you just see ‘SFW’ content (on feeds, at least), which is as you describe

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2 points

sort by new search term “nsfw”, subscribe and filter from there.

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5 points

NSFW is an American construct, in Europe people don’t get scared by nudity. If Lemmy is truly worldwide, we can get rid of it.

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3 points

In Europe you wouldn’t want a dick on your phone while you are in the office or on the subway

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2 points

People would literally rather care more about why are you on lemmy or reddit during work time than your sexual preferences.

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This and also

  • politics or religious
  • dull stuff like sports

By “porn”, I suppose you mean nudity?

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14 points

At this point just have a tag system and let people vote on tags. It’s a great way to get to reddit-like niche content curation at smaller acale across many smaller instances.

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7 points

I like this idea, an evolution of label system rather than just reimplementing the reddit model

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Good idea. Unfortunately this depends on self-regulation.

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99 points

Or just copy Mastodon and do content warnings. They’re a lot more versatile.

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10 points

How so, for those of us who are avoidant of other places?

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24 points

I’m confused on what your question is

A content warning tag is similar to a spoiler tag, but you can fill out the warning yourself. So you could type something like “movie ending spoiler” or on Mastodon you’ll see considerate triggers like “TW: suicide” for various trigger warnings.

Which the ability for that makes more sense then having multiple individual tags. Also ActivityPub supports it already anyways, and it works nicely on Mastodon

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Cool, thanks. There was no disingenuousness in my query, just lack of info combined with apathy to go make yet another mastodon account I will likelt never revisit, for info gathering.

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https://github.com/Neshura87/Lemmy-RFC/

(if you want this feature, please comment here as neshura isn’t currently planning to implement it)

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53 points

Not Safe for Work versus Not Safe for Life?

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I think content warnings would be a better approach to this, all other fediverse software have content warnings anyway. Making community content to force use content warnings would be helpful too.

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8 points

i agree, use of cw would be more useful because ’nsfw’ is just too vague and not specific enough.

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Porn vs gore

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8 points

Not safe for lemmy

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Lol even I thought it’s not safe for life and was wondering what’s that about

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Life is correct, NSFW is just something risqué or something that has bad language that you shouldn’t look at at work, but NSFL is like gore or something disgusting or terrible that you shouldn’t look at EVER, ANYWHERE unless you’re desensitized lol

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8 points

NSFL can fuck with your head and might come back to haunt you.

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2 points

OK thanks for the explanation. Now the difference between both makes sense to me.

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Not safe for looking. Gore, usually.

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I’ve never once heard it called “Not Safe for Looking”.

Thats like a few years ago when my wife said she thought LOL was “Lots of Love”.

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0 points

Just provide the alt tag

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I could swear back in the 00s it started as Not Safe for Landing but I couldn’t find anything to back that up when I checked

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2 points

Al Gore?

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51 points

I haven’t seen anything gorey here, luckily. I would much rather see an automatic video tag for both titles and comments. Kind of sick of opening YouTube unintentionally.

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I regularly see videos and images from the war in Ukraine on lemmy. It is marked as NSFW, and blurred, so it looks nearly identical at a glance to content that is NSFW due to sexual content.

I would prefer if those two things were visually distinct in the interface.

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Maybe it’s because my main account is lemm.ee? I just don’t see that stuff at all and I primarily browse All.

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Is THAT why I’m not seeing any NSFW stuff?

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4 points

There was some video a few weeks ago where some guy fucked up passing on a motorcycle and shredded his foot. Then showed it, quite graphically.

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40 points

Can we add spoilers too?

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They are already there. But it’s in wonky markdown…

::: spoiler spoiler
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:::
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12 points

Huh, that does not work in Voyager.

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12 points

And so, begun the client wars have.

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4 points

Nor in Thunder

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!Eternity for Lemmy test!<

>!“Insert text here”!<

Edit: Cool, it works.

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