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Zorque

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Technically you didn’t ask, you demanded.

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I assume lone botanists formed up to say they want changes, while a presiding body decided not to.

Two different groups with two different positions.

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We need more than just a President, we need a congress and we need state and local governments that are on our side.

A President can’t do everything, and expecting them to is how you get a King.

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Do you… go?

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Fair, I took your example of “we defeated fascism militarily” and not expounded about anything else as a solution except not voting at all… I took that as your solution.

Please do explain how you will solve all our problems in such a way that you aren’t able to vote as well.

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Really? Because, as you say, we haven’t seen any progress thus far. Doesnt seem to be working for you either.

Of course, its clearly everyone else’s fault that your ideas don’t work.

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You’re literally advocating violence to enforce your point of view.

I dont know what you think that is, but it sure as fuck isn’t leftist. You don’t change minds by caving them in.

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Mostly because people like you refuse to participate because you’d rather be “above that sort of thing”.

You won’t change shit by being an outlier. You won’t make a difference by refusing to participate. Telling everyone that the system stinks and you’re going to go make your own is how you get hundreds of systems that have no effect on anything.

You want to make change? Stop being an island unto yourself and work with other people. You don’t have to work with fascists, but you will have to work with people you don’t see as “good enough”. Because otherwise all you are is a drop in a very big ocean.

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We didn’t defeat fascism, we defeated fascists. Fascism didn’t stop existing because we defeated Germany in a war. It just went into hiding. A lot of that hiding in the US.

The idea that we “defeated fascism” is part of the problem with why it still exists. That we were able to shoot it in the face and it just went away.

The only way to defeat fascism is to change to a system that doesn’t breed fascism.

Yes, that is literally the point of my previous comment. The problem is you are advocating a system that fosters it, not one that removes it.

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