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Zorque

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Yeah, but that’s capitalism in general, which is what people mean when they say “free market”.

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Which are frequently abused by those in power.

They protect the companies who have money, not the people who generally create those ideas and technologies.

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That implies the US is trying to stop it.

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I’m trying to figure out if you think I’m replying to you or not…

What I’m responding to is the “We can’t even stop a genocide” part of the comment I’m replying to. Which is a political stance the US is taking, and not really directly related to the meme in question.

Also, taking memes (of all things) as some kind of mass endorsement is… some kind of twisted logic.

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I’m not saying that what lots of Chinese companies (often with their governments backing or even insistence) isn’t terrible… what I’m saying is they’re not stealing from angels.

They’re basically just doing what American (and other western companies) are doing, just without the “gentlemen’s agreement” that the west uses to keep the poors from getting uppity.

You think those companies are giving the people who actually create the things they make billions (or trillions) off of a fair portion? No, they’re taking all that hard work and paying a pittance for it.

There is no moral high ground here, just lower and lower levels as each tries to out scum each other.

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Probably the one that’s been in the news for the last six months, the one you didn’t even mention. The one in Palestine.

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No reasonable person can argue that source code kept private to a company (ex: Google) deserves to be stolen by China.

It’s a good thing I never implied that then.

You seem to be arguing against a strawman, not me. Let me know when you want to have a discussion instead of arguing against a bogeyman.

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Oh yeah, that other one the US hasn’t tried to stop.

Of course, the US also isn’t financially, politically, and economically invested in that genocide, so I can see how it might not be as relevant to the conversation.

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You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about how discussions work. They change and evolve, a root meme is just that… a root. It is not the whole tree. There are no leaves on a root, yet there are many on the rest of a tree.

I’m talking about the basic nature what what these specific “Chinese hackers” are doing (which were never mentioned in the meme, so I’m not sure where you even got them, if you’re so invested in it), which is capitalism. They are motivated by capitalism, just like the people exploiting the labor of the people they employ.

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That’s fair, if you don’t care about people dying unless you’re financially motivated… that’s your own cross to bear.

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