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Right… I mean, to be quite honest… if Biden/Trump in 2024 is the best they can come up with, maybe something like that will waken up the Democrats to actual consequences when they continue to run such shitty candidates.

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We vote now to maintain and carry this frustration and momentum to make change. What we don’t do is shoot ourselves in both feet and wonder why we can’t walk.

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So you’re under a lot of frustration by voting Biden? Or you are saying you’re so scared to say anything negative about him because he isn’t a very good candidate and you’re scared he’ll lose to Trump?

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Stop commenting on posts and attempting to twist narratives by offering the illusion of choice. You’re creating traps by seeming to offer two separate choices that lead towards the same outcome. So here’s the reality:

Trump sucks. The Republican party acts purely in its own interest. People who support either the candidate or the party do so because they believe harming others is an action they can support if it means some end they do mental backflips to justify. The majority of those supporting do not act in good faith in discussions and instead attempt to derail conversations with barely relevant “facts” and by making others feel as if they need to defend something, while also being unreasonable.

I support anyone who isn’t claiming they will be a dictator. I support anyone who is attempting to enact positive and lasting change, which you will attack. I support those who do not attempt coups.

Who do you support?

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19 points

Holy fuck this obvious wedge driving hahahaha.

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Wedge driving? Ask yourself, why are Democrats so scared? If you pick the best person on your team to go up the worst player of the opposition, you wouldn’t be scared.

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I mean, I’m scared because people I love are being made illegal and/or having their rights revoked. I’m scared because 8 years ago, I didn’t know half of my country were only pretending not to be some combination of antisemitic, white nationalist, eagerly awaiting a chance to shoot their neighbors and anti-vaccine. Like, I knew that was the general flavor where I lived, but I didn’t know it was this bad everywhere.

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-13 points

It doesn’t help to wake up too late.

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Alright then how about this. If this situation is so dire why is Biden acting so chill about it? Shouldn’t he be on his knees begging for votes?

EDIT: Lol

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How do you know he’s chill about it? Have you not heard what he’s said in public about Trump?

Rhetorical question, don’t bother answering. You know the answer, and you’re lying to pretend that you don’t. You’re trying to establish a false perception that Biden hasn’t done anything.

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Look up how Hussein took power. Or Hitler. Or Putin. Or pooh bear.

There will be no Democrats. Or democracy.

Only bodies.

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Seems like Biden should be begging for votes then yeah?

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From whom? Bothesidesers such as yourself who are going to vote red no matter what happens?

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I never comment in politics threads. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and invites the kind of discourse I try to avoid recreationally.

But I had to reply to you because a) it’s weird how much I’m seeing the word “begging” lately, and b) what kind of “begging” should he even do? “Please, please, please vote for me?” And how would that change things at all? Or even help?

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Seems like you should be begging everyone and anyone to vote for Biden then?

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No, if 2016 didn’t wake them up I don’t think anything will, I’m pretty thoroughly convinced they would still be whining about Nader voters as they were being taken to the gallows by Republicans,

Everyone who can be woke already is and its just about calling out their dumb moderate ideas while they can still be stopped and primarying their people with real progressives. Democratic candidates losing to Republicans doesn’t make that any easier, if anything it just empowers moderates because the “leftist purity tests did this” narrative plays really well with low information voters.

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for sure. just like the lesson the Catholic Centre Party learned in 1932. so worth it.

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The reason we got Trump in the first place is cause of the DNC and corporate Democrats that wanted him to win over Bernie. They just had Rachel Maddow and all the feelings-over-reality shills on the left working overtime to convince their party that it was somehow Bernie supporters fault.

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Trump lost the popular vote every single time, he won the first time because of the electoral college and gerrymandering

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Not really. The reason we got him is the people who voted for him. I was a bernie supported but I voted hilary. there is plenty of time to fix the democrats or completely eliminate the republicans and we will get a new second party anyway as dems are always pretty ready to fracture. Republicans winning is the only thing keeping dems at statis quo.

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