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  1. that safe setting may very well be the shelter we are talking about

  2. you are steering away from subject. it is absolutely fair to tell them “being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want”

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No, alcohol withdrawal can cause seizures and death. A shelter is not a safe place, especially because they won’t have alcohol for emergencies.

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So you want to create an alternate society in the wilds?

Well that’s one I haven’t thought about since the last time I read Brave New World and thought, good thing we’d never do that.

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Not what I wrote

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it is absolutely fair to tell them "being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want

This you?

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  • Henri Lefebvre, The Right to the City — In brief, the right to the city is the right to the production of a city. The labor of a worker is the source of most of the value of a commodity that is expropriated by the owner. The worker, therefore, has a right to benefit from that value denied to them. In the same way, the urban citizen produces and reproduces the city through their own daily actions. However, the the city is expropriated from the urbanite by the rich and the state. The right to the city is therefore the right to appropriate the city by and for those who make and remake it.

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