Genuine question: what makes you think that? Is it a vibes thing? I’ve been listening to her public statements and it seems to me like she won’t be changing from Biden’s policy. I want to think she’ll be better than Biden was on this issue (like she is on a number of issues), but so far I see no evidence of that.

You are huffing paint if you think a change of leadership will fix a genocidal ethnostate currently engaged in the most violent ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries.

They are being exterminated now by a Democrat.

More dead since before the Nakba. More homes destroyed and more refugees than 1948. And you want me to clap and cheer for the party responsible for 200k dead innocent people.

This is a second Nakba, somehow even worse, and you want me to vote for the party enabling it.

Read my second sentence again. Particularly the part where I say “I encourage you to vote for Harris and Walz”.

Give me an answer other than “Trump is worse”. Of course he is.

firstly, your comment above literally started with “Seems like the genocide is already accelerating, so this is also a false choice. Either way it will be more.” Now you say “of course he is worse” as if we’re all supposed to know you believe that. plenty of people on Lemmy don’t.

Secondly, when you only criticize one side just because you think the other side is too far gone, you are making the discussion biased against Harris.

There were more than 5 hundred thousand people killed in the Iran-Iraq war

You might have forgotten because that’s already 0,4 centuries ago

This is the worst ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries. Even Saddam racked up less kills when he was gassing Kurds.

The Anfal Campaign was what, 200,000 killed?

Unless the Palestinian death toll, already horrific, has quintupled, I don’t think your math checks out.

because our two party and single choice voting systems suck. But it’s the world we live in and we have to do the best we can with it.

so if your only two options are more genocide or less genocide, which are you going to choose? And if your answer is “none of the above” remember that effectively counts as a half vote for more genocide.

yes and we should keep pressuring them to do so. But this post is about comparing Harris to Trump, and how they do not have the same policy. I’d much rather try to convince Harris to adjust her position than Trump

That’s not what I meant and you know that.

America joining in because Trump doesn’t think the jews are finishing the job fast enough?

West Bank being fully annexed and the 200,000 Palestinians who’ve been able to hold on thus far being deported to Gaza for more bombings or to Jordan where the royal family was already selling them out even before a civil war broke out over it leading to the king’s assassination?

Trump intentionally provoking war in the entire region because his followers are part of a fucking death cult and think it’ll cause the biblical battle of Armageddon and make their sky daddy come home?

Evangelicals convincing Trump to begin a program to settle christians in the region to refound the crusader kingdom of Jerusalem?

Have you fucking read any of Project 2025, use your damn imagination and odds are they’ve already come up with even worse and adopted it as official platform policy.

Get off your soapbox and prevent the greater harm, or quit pretending you have any business calling yourself an ally while being a whiny wilted little cunt ass about how it’s everyone else’s job to make you want to for your own feel goods.

you don’t have to ignore what’s happening now to imagine many ways it could get worse.

ever heard of things like concentration camps and mass executions?

Simple. It’s as bad as it is now despite Biden’s administration delaying arms, prohibiting aid being sent to illegal settlers, and constantly pushing for a peace deal. A Trump administration wouldn’t bother with any of that.

Imagine how bad it would be with Trump patting Netanyahu on the back the whole time, shovelling arms over there as fast as the grift would allow, and subsidizing the settlements (now not illegal if the UN knows what is good for it). Precision munitions? Why bother when you could just carpet MOABs the whole district?

See now how it will be worse?

you are either supremely naive or a blatant trump shill. Israel still has many cards left to play in the genocide deck like cultural reprogramming, concentration camps, and mass executions.

This genocide has been going on for decades, genius. Do you think the past year of genocide is ‘just as bad’ as the past two decades of genocide? Yes or no?

Yeah those people aren’t dying in the right region of the world for you to care about I guess

How dare I ask what Americans will do as the result of an American election.

Edit: why are Palistian lives in the hands of a foreign nation to begin with?

Edit2: American hands. Sorry if you haven’t brushed up on your history but our track record is not great friend. You want to see America do better? It’s starts by not being ambivalent about every other political issue going on in this nation.

Also it’s fine if you hate America, if you hate everything we stand for; you hate Kamala and you would like to see me piked personally but have the decency to look me in the eyes when you impale me. I’ll see right past you.

okay cool just checking

I did watch police protect their neo nazi friends and beat protesters, it’s disgusting.

But you are kidding yourself if not voting isn’t a vote for Trump. And you are kidding yourself if you think a right wing Christian nationalist party would send fewer bombs. They would send more “for Jesus” and I think you know that.