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56 points

There’s just no good reason to have anything beyond the radio/nav etc in a car connected to the Internet. Remote start can be done with just the key.

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You know what fuck builtin nav. Connect it to my phone and let that be it for navigation.

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And same for music. What year is this 2010?

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I like using the built in radio rather than my phone for music, but it doesn’t need an internet connection, just a flash drive.

I suppose I’m a weirdo for not using Spotify like most people nowadays though

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Plus if you use your phone for nav you can use whatever maps you like. My city is mapped pretty good on openstreetmap so that’s what I use.

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I would say even those don’t need Internet. Navigation can be updated using a USB drive, and I have a phone for audio so I just need bluetooth.

The only network connection I want in my car is to notify emergency services if the airbags go off.

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Things like live traffic require a connection though, and Google maps I think does the routing calcs off the device. Most people will use their phone for all that, but the use case is there.

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I think the point is that there isn’t a good enough reason to put internet in a car that negates the risk of it.

It is like adding lead to food. It’s a cheap sweetener with no calories. You can argue that cheap sweeteners aren’t important to you, but I don’t think you can argue that it isn’t a good reason. It just isn’t a good enough reason to negate the risk.

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frankly they aren’t good reasons.

the first bunch provides info and abilities that are only relevant when you are in the car. this is like wanting to know your house’s temperature when you are in the store, or on vacation. what the fuck you do with that information?

the remaining about the alarm and it being stolen, what are you going to do with this? go after them with your 4th car and a shotgun? let’s hope they did not disconnect the batteries…

if you absolutely cannot live without these, you should by an extension that does this, instead of forcing this shit on everyone

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You can argue that those are not important to you, personally but I don’t think you can argue that they aren’t good reasons.

These sound like “value-add module purchased at or after time of sale” reasons.

In short, they’re features and not requirements.

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That’s a very subjective take. My friends and family that live in hot climates love the ability to remotely turn on and pre-cool their vehicles. I appreciate being able to check if I remembered to lock the doors.

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Both of those functions have been available via key fob for at least a decade, no internet required. Though yes the range on that can be limited.

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Thats precisely what I’m referring to- these things being possible when you’re inside of a store, restaurant, or an extreme case like you parked at the airport for a trip.

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Some of us still remember Wise Guys and want that range! ;-)

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And by using that internet connected feature you’re 100% handing out your driving info to your car manufacturer, who in turn will sell it to LexisNexis, who in turn will sell it to insurance companies, who in turn will jack up your insurance prices.

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Sure, that sucks. But I’m not saying there are zero downsides, I’m specifically countering the argument that there are “no good reasons” with my personal good reasons.

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As I said in my comment, that can be done with the key, no Internet connection needed.

As for the lock thing, I just need to look if my mirrors are folded in or not.

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The fob won’t work if you’re deep inside a store, will it? Same for checking the mirrors.

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😭

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