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55 points

I dont understand how there isnt a mass exodus from youtube already, whats keeping people there? If they pulled this shit in 2005 itd be done for.

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massive backlog of content, only place creators can easily make money from uploading vids I’m pretty sure, so the big creators will never switch, and a lot of smaller creators have at least a fantasy of making it big if their vids go viral, if not a goal. Honestly a government would have to step in a break up YT at this point, it’s got a monopoly on vids and I don’t think any platform will ever be able to break it tbh.

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23 points
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Boomer take

With the attention span of Zoomers and younger generations, TikToks will be everything that anybody needs as nobody can watch videos longer than 3 minutes anyways

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58 points

There are two types of videos. 3 minute ticktoks and 2 hour video essays about “Hegelian philosophy hidden in the Adventures of the Gummi Bears”

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back in my day, we watched 5 hour video essays about Goof Troop

Youtube has that fake tiktok “shorts” feature, but I’m pretty sure it’s just people reposting content from tiktok and other short-form video sites.

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11 points

TikTok pays like shit.

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19 points

Absolute horseshit, the kids watch long form content at 2x speed. They still want it, they just want it ‘faster’. This will also continue to change when they get old and everything slows down for them.

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51 points
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People keep saying this but it really doesn’t hold up. Moistcritikal videos get viewed like crazy and the guy posts 2-3 videos of himself rambling at a camera every day, each 10-20 minutes long, no jumpcuts or loud noises either. The daily Hasanabi videos are all easily 30 minutes long. Hell, MrBeast videos are all well over 10 minutes long as well. Wendigoon has seen a meteoric rise over the past year and his videos are all hour long stories about creeypasta stuff etc. Iceberg videos have been a huge trend and those are all really long as well.

The theory that people’s attention spans keep getting shorter and people can’t watch longer videos anymore doesn’t match up with the trends on Youtube. Videos are not getting shorter, not at all.

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Video essays remain a very popular and successful medium. Channels like Caddicarus have actually SWITCHED from frequent shorter content to occasional longform content because it does better for them.

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12 points

Social media changes incredibly quickly. Think of how recently TikTok came onto the scene, and how it changed every other site. Reddit made the worst video player ever to try to copy TikTok.

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That is the only example in the last 10 years and they only ‘succeeded’ because bytedance was willing to burn tens of billions of dollars.

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People did try to leave in the late 2000s/early 2010s

I remember when all the big critics (which were popular style of video at the time) movied to Blip.TV

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i tried to switch to vimeo back in 2011 and they deleted my shit (gameplay videos) because it wasn’t “artistic” enough. instantly went walk of shaming back to youtube

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8 points

WTF? Vimeo is for finding full episodes ofbshows that get deleted from youtube instantly. When did they get so pretentious?

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47 points

Video hosting is expensive is the main reason. Only google has the money and they can’t even make it profitable

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33 points

Whats stopping them? A couple things, is my guess.

How many hours of garbage are uploaded there, every minute? The bar for entry is nonexistent. All you need is a webcam.

YouTube will lose its crown eventually but there is nothing waiting in the wings as a replacement. Yet.

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11 points

Patiently waiting for China’s video service to show up and be much better.

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That’s Bilibili ain’t it? And Youku too, I suppose

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5 points

TikTok sorta has. Though it mostly claimed the short formats that youtube seemed to have abandoned when it dropped

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That’s the place where the videos are

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21 points

It costs a lot of money to host all that video

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There isn’t a competing video platform.

Video data is really really big. Not many have the resources to store it forever and send it globally on demand. And also pay money back to the creators who upload the videos in the first place.

Vidme tried and failed, not profitable.

Vimeo is not comparable, it’s for corporate/work/advertising videos. Not for consumers.

What the fuck is Dailymotion?

Netflix is curated shows, not comparable.

Sky is paid sports on TV, not comparable.

Nebula only works because viewers have to pay, not to mention that uploading to Nebula is extremely exclusive due to their high standards for creators. It makes sense that Nebula exists - but it isn’t a YouTube competitor.

The only other free consumer video platform right now is TikTok, which is only suited for short vertical videos.

A competitor to YouTube that does the same thing is not possible. Only a megacorp like Google has the money to throw away.

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ByteDance could probably afford to make a western-facing youtube clone, but there’s presumably enough competition in China that they wouldn’t bother doing something just for the west.

This is making me wonder, what are the Chinese youtube equivalents? IIRC Weibo’s more of a twitter. Is it just BiliBili?

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