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What do you propose?

I guess I’d ask you the same question. I don’t have a proposal because I don’t think any of it will make it through Congress. And if it somehow made it through Congress, the Supreme Court would strike it as unconstitutional.

Short of voting out these members of Congress and balancing the court, there’s no hope of reform. So drop the issue to appeal to more voters. Win more elections, balance the court, then you’re in a position to effect change.

Also, AWBs are pretty useless. They tend to grandfather in existing weapons and they exclude handguns, which are the weapon used most often to commit murder. Magazine limits, which were in the 1994 law, were the only piece to show a genuine reduction in violent crimes.

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I guess my proposal would be to repeal and replace 2a. Probably won’t happen until the silent gen and the boomers are gone.

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I strongly disagree with you, but I definitely give you credit for at least actually saying it.

Most that I’ve had this discussion with insist they don’t want to touch the second amendment and revoke the rights of law abiding gun owners… then most of their ideas both won’t solve gun violence while also stripping millions of people who’ve never broken a gun law of their rights without due process.

Guns are one issue where I strongly break with the Typical American Left™, but if you’re going to be anti-gun, I absolutely give you credit for having the wherewithal to just say what you really want.

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Well, I also said “replace.” Something that’s clearer and won’t be misinterpreted like the “well-regulated militia.”

Something that’s under control like they have in most other developed countries where you can still own a weapon in many instances, but it’s much safer and gun-related crime is way down.

I’m just, under no circumstance, willing to accept the massacres of children or other innocent people. And pretending it has nothing to do with the weapons is just disingenuous.

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I don’t think any generation of 3/4 of the states is ratifying that.

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Maybe, maybe not.

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Some variation on this is the inevitable outcome. It’s same story as with say, universal health care. We already know the solution, we just have assholes and people stuck in the past preventing it. At some point, most of them will die off and society moves on.

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Universal health care has been on the national stage since Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. Over a century and not much to show for it.

The problem with eventually is that there’s no measure of success, since you can never be wrong, it’s just not eventually yet.

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Or you know, actually interpret the way it was written. Most “gun enthusiasts” are not part of a “well regulated militia”.

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A well stocked library, being necessary and proper for the literacy of a nation, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.

That wouldn’t limit the ownership of books to just librarians or people with library cards, it clearly applies to all people.

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Sure but we’ve proven incapable of that. Repeal it and replace it with something that cannot be misinterpreted.

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