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Source: I work at Amazon, and have worked on Alexa

They don’t spy on you without your permission. Comments like these devalue actual instances where companies genuinely steal and manipulate data. Take the tin foil hat off…

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Source: I work at Amazon, and have worked on Alexa

If you’re high enough level at Amazon to know for sure, you’re also high enough level at Amazon to almost definitely lie to people about it and other things as part of your job.

So no, we will not be taking your word for it.

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They’d also be violating their NDA.

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NDAs are null and void for illegal activity

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That doesn’t make any sense. If I were “higher up”, do you think I would be actually doing any IC work? I’d be in management, and probably won’t even know where to look at any of the fucking source code.

Feel free not to take my word for it, but also feel free to ask anyone that has any experience with Alexa, or anyone that has monitored traffic leaving the device.

Is Lemmy just full of conspiracy nuts or something?

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If I were “higher up”, do you think I would be actually doing any IC work

If you weren’t, why would you have access to enough data to know for sure whatv every part of it does and doesn’t do?

free to ask anyone that has any experience with Alexa, or anyone that has monitored traffic leaving the device.

So basically biased people and people who might lose their jobs if they say anything Amazon doesn’t want people to know? Sure, sounds credible!

There’s conspiracy theories and then there’s expecting that a company that has been proven to spy on people without their knowledge will spy on people without their knowledge.

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So your theory as to why you haven’t seen evidence is that there’s a conspiracy of people withholding the evidence. I gotta ask, do you have evidence of that conspiracy?

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Consent could be argued that it was given upon purchase of the Alexa unit…

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They don’t spy on you without your permission.

You should probably edit your comment to clarify that they don’t listen to you.

“Spying” doesn’t really have a clear definition in this context. Amazon employees have been caught spying on customers through their cameras, and giving away clips to authorities without “owners’” consent, consult or notification.

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True, that is more accurate. IMO, in those instances, Amazon get all the shit that they deserve…although for many instances these are in their terms of service. There has been no shortage of scandals where Amazon have used utterance data for training ML models, or where they’ve retained voice data for the same reasons, when these have been in the TOS from the beginning.

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Source: Trust me bro

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If you had any remote idea about the tech industry, you’d know what kind of reputation Amazon has. If Amazon were stealing data, you can bet your ass that one of its employees (probably one of the ~6% that gets fired every year) would happily rat them out.

Comments like these amaze me. Even cesspools like Reddit and Twitter wouldn’t be so out of touch and stupid.

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It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It

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