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83 points

Its warcriminals fighting warcriminals, change my mind.

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66 points

The only thing I can say is that both have no problem with harming combatants and civilians alike, but one side is disproportionately killing civilians with the resources at their disposal (Israel) just because they can.

I’m not convinced that Hamas wouldn’t do the same if the tables were turned, but one side needs to be better if we’re ever to see an end to this conflict.

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34 points

Yeah. Hamas doesn’t have any moral high ground, but the one that needs to be restrained at this moment in time is Israel.

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2 points

People are also more eager to criticise Israel because Hamas is just a terrorist organisation and they hold Israel to a higher standard.

I guess the Israeli government isn’t happy about being treated as more than a terrorist organisation?

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23 points

I always thought the IDF was supposed to be super skilled and tactical. I expected surgical strikes to take out terrorists and minimize civilian casualties. They had a reputation for strength.

Turns out they’re either incompetent or they’re genocidal or both. Hint: both.

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8 points

Unfortunately, for those in the know, the IDF’s callous and sadistic operations in Palestine have been known for some time. They had a good PR arm making themselves out to be super careful in the occupied territories, but it was always at odds with their actions.

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6 points

We can guess they would, as they are backed by iran, who has declared they want to wipe Israel off the map.

(Not Zion posting, Israel is commiting genocide, just saying Hamas is no better, just less capable)

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4 points

Too many people don’t get that, I am 100% against Hamas, that might be different, if instead of a bunch of civilians, they had just taken like legitimate military people, I know everyone in Israel’s a veteran blah blah blah.

Hell, I could even have a lot more respect for them if they immediately released everyone who wasn’t an Israeli soldier.

Shit even if they just give up the fucking children.

But they didn’t do any of that and they’re complete fucking bastards and cowards.

But I can say damn hear everything the same against fucking Israel here.

They are both bad, and I don’t understand the people who are only against one or the other.

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3 points

Ehh, Hamas would have killed just as many if not far more civilians by now if Israel didn’t have such good defenses with things like the iron dome.

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Hamas and the Islamic brotherhood have only fired 12,000 rockets at Israel since 10/7. I’m sure they don’t want to kill indiscriminately, just give the Israelis a fireworks show! /s

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I don’t get too worked up by right-wing religious nuts harming other right-wing religious nuts.

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24 points

Sadly, there are many innocents who are caught between the two.

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4 points

Yep, thats my Main issue. Also there seems to be a group oft people that can make out the good guys in this conflict, which isnt a thing i think.

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This isn’t a religious war. It’s an oppressed people fighting back against a secular political ideology that uses religion to it’s goals.

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6 points

Absolutely not the whole picture. Hamas is a religious terrorist organization backed by iran.

The Palestinian people are innocent, Hamas is not.

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30 points

I guess it’s war criminals killing civilians, mostly.

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5 points

right, not even getting to the point of fighting each other, this makes it so much worse.

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8 points

Right? I learned yesterday that Israel is suffering from a lot more friendly fire incidents than is typical in urban warfare. Almost like the people they’re fighting are so poorly equipped to fight back that the main threat to Israeli soldiers is other Israeli soldiers.

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7 points

Yeah, all those children murdered so that their parents homes can be stolen are war criminals…

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Im talking about hammas and the Israeli military, who are you talking about? I dont quite get you

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