So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

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Lemmy.ml is only a tankie instance to someone that thinks Marxism=tankies

That said, at least one of the Worldnews mods is a pretty evident Pooh Poster.

They’ll let people call out the more aggressive bullshit “America bad” rhetoric but if you even look at China funny you’re going to eat a permaban.

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There is nothing marxist about ml or other tankie places. They are just pure authoritarian brownnosers, and couldn’t care less about actual socialism. Tankies are purely in it because they imagine they are going to be the ruling class after their imaginary “revolution”, exactly the same way fascists are in it for.

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bootlicking is like their religion

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They believe in trickle down authoritarianism.

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From my little research I didn’t think communism even had classes.

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Sure, the people running the goverment were definitely in the same lines as everyone else waiting for their beet and bread rations.

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Lemmy.ml is only a tankie instance to someone that thinks Marxism=tankies

lmao

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but if you even look at China funny you’re going to eat a permaban.

That sure sounds like classic tankie.

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The ironic part is that all of the Marxist-Leninists on .ml are actually really bad when it comes to contemporary political science in my experience. They are way closer to anti-western ideologues considering their grasp on modern leftist theory seems tenuous at best. All they know is orthodox dogma and then a bunch of cold war nonsense which has nothing to do with leftist politics at all.

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a tankie is someone who tends to support “militant opposition to capitalism”, and a more modern online variation, which means "something like ‘a self-proclaimed communist who indulges in conspiracy theories and whose rhetoric is largely performative.’

I use this definition. And it perfectly applies to a wide range of lemmy.ml users and moderators.

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That’s a bad definition.

A tankie is simply a ML who supports the use of force to restrict people’s freedoms. It’s named after the Soviets sending tanks into Hungary to stop a popular democratic uprising, but the same applies to China sending tanks into Tiananmen.

They’re basically super statists who value the state over the people.

All leftists are opposed to capitalism, but obvs tankies are a small minority of leftists, so your definition falls apart.

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What is a ML ?

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All leftists are opposed to capitalism

That’s simply incorrect.

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They don’t oppose capitalism (example Russia & China). It’s closer to a support for authoritarianism (usually anti-USA, but even there shifts towards more authoritarian leadership receive support)

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It’s not that they don’t oppose capitalism so much that they’ll ignore any sense of ideological consistency on their quixotic quest to make sure that everyone knows America is Bad.

If you oppose America, you must be good, it doesn’t matter if you’re a genocidal kleptocracy or a genuine fascist. Internally this is rationalized by viewing America as the most dominant and powerful force for capitalism in the world, it doesn’t matter if other, even worse capitalists tear it down because the American empire must fall for socialism to rise.

And it’s not like that particular thought is wrong, in a vacuum. America has proven time and time again that it will break any moral barrier to attack anyone even suspected of being a socialist, it’s just so evidentally self defeating you have to wonder if there are any true believers at all or if they’re all sockpuppets run from a Russian speaking basement somewhere.

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its still part of Russian geoplitical strategy - shifts to the right are self-destructive and help USA’s enemies

during the 80’s, USA pushed the USSR’s allies in South America to adopt more conservative governments as a means of destroying them from the inside, and today Russia is attempting to employ the same strategy against USA

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I’ve literally never once seen any of these people mention a single thing about economic philosophy. It’s simply shit talking the west and defending the Chinese and Russian governments at all costs. I think the whole “communism” aspect is little more than a smokescreen.

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Your definition is bad.

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I don’t agree, but I did lol at “Pooh poster”

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