I have drawn myself as a chad and you as an ugly wojack so my position is clearly the correct one.
Windows users hate this one neat trick.
I mean, Windows 10 is okay, but man have MS really gotten shitty in the last few years.
Fully agree. Windows is trash spyware now that doesn’t respect user choice.
I was really commenting more on the meme itself.
For sure. Man I miss Windows 7, that was the best. No crap, updates just worked. Was nice.
Yeah, it’s cyclical. They’re re-entering their shithead phase.
Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. The got smacked with those EU antitrust lawsuits and they reset back to Embrace, and started participating in open-source again. Then they started extending by doing shit like buying GitHub and adding even more cool shit to it. Now they’re entering in extinguish phase where they’re doing shit like making it difficult to change default browser, and integrating all their services together without the ability to integrate 3rd parties.
They’ll (hopefully) get smacked with another EU antitrust lawsuit and reset soon.
It’s legal and user pushback - and it’s a battle I’m bored of fighting. I just use Linux, and find it simpler. With Windows, it’s ads, forced updates, ‘upgrades’ that re-enable ‘features’ i never wanted, a billion background services, most of which I don’t need - and more.
Fuck the battle to keep shit from being shoved down my throat.
I’m literally going to use windows 10 until it completely stops getting updated, by that point hopefully someone will invent a Linux distro that doesn’t irritate me
I feel like I’m going to get flak for taking a position that’s not completely anti-Windows, but please try to hear me out before casting judgment. I use both OS and think they both have merit. Linux- for the reasons listed in the meme, and windows- for those without the technical know-how, patience, or time for the better alternative.
That being said, if anyone thinks like how this Ed, Edd, N’ Eddy looking mofo in the meme does I’ll be the first to say that’s a horribly bad take lol
Of course it is. There’s 0 reason to come after anyone for choosing Linux as any, if at all, of the extra effort incurred is only going to affect them personally.
Edit: Not even a single flak in the comments, the happiest I’ve ever been to stand corrected. We’ve done it, world peace achieved.
I think the problem is preinstalls. No one was born understanding how Windows works, we had gathered that experience over time. If the computer you were introduced to was a Linux system (with X11 and KDE or GNOME), then that would be what you would get used to. Unfortunately, getting Linux preinstalls on laptops is basically impossible. Vendors love that preinstall money.
Companies that sell “enterprisy” laptops (like Dell and Lenovo) usually sell a few models with Linux. And while not a laptop I wouldn’t be surprised if almost half of Desktop Linux users today have a Steam Deck.
I think that would not change the opinion much among the existing desktop userbase. That being said the younger generations are not by nature desktop users the way Gen-xers and millennials were. I think getting GNU/Linux as the default desktop for educational settings I think will have. Thankfully there is some traction being made on this front, particularly in places like France, Brazil & Argentina. Then again I guess it’s not an either or, as having more vendors with preloaded Educational focused distributions & support would make such adoption more likely to successfully launch in such settings.
That’s very true! I would’ve loved this option in my formative years back before developing all the bad habits lol
I must forget everything I know about computing. 🥋
I use both. I’ve tried using Linux on desktop and there’s always been a few handfuls of minor but annoying enough issues that make just want to go back to windows on my main computer. For my laptop that I don’t use often, Linux is fine. For hosting services on my local network, Linux is fine. Neither are prefect but Linux definitely has come a long ways.
How fucking DARE you. People should be forced to learn how to compile their OS, like Gentoo allows, and then have it crash and burn in front of everybody in social studies when you have to present your LibreOffice presentation about why Teddy Roosevelt was objectively the best president and spent a lot of time on making a slide with Abe the soyjack and Teddy the chad.
/s in case somebody needs it
Linux is slowly getting there, it’s developers just need to drop the “git gud” and “special club status” mentality and concentrate more on user experience.
Yeah like I switched and love it and I think the gap is closing fast, but whether linux closes it or windows closes it is still up to chance. The easier Linux gets for everyday users who don’t want to learn command line the more people are going to use it. The more software that just works on Linux the more easily you’ll convince people. It’s not about getting to where your coworkers or your grandma can use it. It’s about getting your in laws to not need your help to use it after a friend recommended it
I prefer Windows because I don’t need all the extra customization and in depth features, and I don’t want to bother setting them up. Like sure I could use commands to queue up file transfers, but I would never have the need and could get 99% of the way there with a drag and drop…
It’s fine until you have to move more than a handful of files and discover it takes the better part of a day and slows your machine to a crawl.
File management under windows is really something else. Apparently there are third party tools that somewhat mitigate this.
Had to copy a couple of TB to a new drive the other day.
Just selected all, and dragged them over. Then I just walked away, because even during those rare situations, it doesn’t matter how long it takes.
Only took an hour though, and Windows was still working flawlessly in the meantime. Running on +8 year old hardware even.
You sure you used Windows in the last 20 years?
I’ll use Linux for a few things and I do appreciate it, but it’s probably never going to be my daily driver as long as I can keep Windows 10 running. I don’t like using terminal for everything, I want to click stuff with my stupid 50 button mouse like a dummy, and I don’t want to install dependencies every time I went to do something new on my computer, I just want it to come bloated with too many drivers to cover my bases for 90% of use cases and not have to think about it. Does that make me dumb? Maybe, but just let me be dumb. 🤣
I don’t like using terminal for everything
You don’t have to use it for anything. Especially on KDE.
I don’t want to install dependencies every time I went to do something new on my computer
That’s literally what a package manager does for you. Unless you’re building everything from source, you’ll never have to do this.
I just want it to come bloated with too many drivers to cover my bases for 90% of use cases and not have to think about it.
You basically described the Linux kernel. It’s not “bloated”, but it has more drivers built into it than Windows does. Even when you plug in a mouse on Windows it literally installs drivers. On Linux stuff just works.
You don’t have to use it for anything. Especially on KDE.
While you don’t have to use it, there is a very large possibility that once in a while you will be at a disadvantage if you don’t use it.
I’ll use Linux for a few things and I do appreciate it
I don’t like using terminal for everything, I want to click stuff with my stupid 50 button mouse like a dummy, and I don’t want to install dependencies every time I went to do something new on my computer, I just want it to come bloated with too many drivers to cover my bases for 90% of use cases and not have to think about it.
These two statements are at odds with each other. If you did use Linux at all you would know everything else you said is false.
Not trying to convince anybody, but I decided to switch over to Linux on my personal laptop after having a terrible experience with a forced Windows 11 upgrade on my work laptop. I thought it would be more difficult, but the only time I had to even use the terminal was to maybe fix one of my internal hard drives not auto mounting, and to get a couple programs working. 90% of all my apps work out of flatpak/pre-installed “software store” in Linux Mint. Even been doing some moderate gaming on Steam, and everything just works, mostly. I actually got Outer Wilds working better in Linux than in Windows. There are some oddities, but I am sure they’re only “odd” because I’ve been using Windows since like 1999. I am confident the only thing I’ll ever need Windows for is my work laptop and maybe MS Office. I can do 95% of stuff in the brower with MS’s online Office 360, but there are some deficiencies.
I am excited to be slightly challenged with a new OS experience!
I stopped reading after Windows and just wanted to tell you to educate yourself. I’d recommend Arch to any sane person.
If you see someone making a bold statement and then referring to Arch Linux, it’s probably a joke
Linux isn’t an OS. It’s just a kernel, which doesn’t do much like it self. GNU is an OS and Linux is one of its kernels.
Yeah thanks sherlock… But it’s quite a common simplification and understood by almost anyone.
Edit: I’m sorry – after reading my comment again– that came across quite a bit harsher than it was meant.
Considering that Hurd is still not finished what other kernel does GNU use other than Linux?
HURD is the default GNU kernel. From what I here there are also GNU systems running on BSD’d stuff, and I suspect they’re are many GNU systems running with Kernels users have created themes, whether for very specific use cases or just for fun. I recall following someone’s blog an Diaspora* about the latter a year ago until she got bored with it.
He says, while using a command that brings a little convenience at the price of control and security…
I love yes it is an amazing tool. I never had an actual use for it since any tool I might want to use it on (like apt) already has some kind of command line switch for it already
But I just once in a while stumble across yes again and run it for half a minute and have a chuckle.
Just like every time I read: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html
Terminal has plenty of convenience benefits over GUI as well. For example you can queue up long-running commands to go one after the other, something I didn’t realise how useful it was until I was using Linux full time.
I use this one all the time for archiving stuff and moving it from my PC to my file server. Tar archive a folder, generate a checksum, move the new files over to the server, and then delete the original folder:
tar -cvf folder.tar folder && cat folder.tar | sha256sum > folder.tar.sha256 && mv folder.tar folder.tar.sha256 /path/to/remote/file/server/ && rm -rf folder
The && part stops execution if there is any error so the folder is only deleted once everything else is done without issues.
Can’t do that with a GUI. Just make sure to proofread before you press enter.
Powershell, released in 2006: Am I a fucking joke to you?
Linux users: Ehhhh, kinda?
Sha256 doesn’t protect your files when bits flip and they are corrupted. If you want that, add a par2 checksum.
A bit of convenience. Right, and a liiiiiittle bit of time as well
Just a little… Turns into a few hours or a whole day sometimes, not that I hate it though.
And technical expertise, and the ability to use a computer without accessibility aids, and the notion of what a “format” is so that they can open their kids’ halloween homework assignment without the formatting being completely broken, and the ability to solve computer problems on their own without calling Geek Squad or visiting a Genius Bar…
I was unaware of convenience being made up of anything in addition to time-preference.
it’s more convenient for me to put a frozen ready meal in the oven for 30 minutes than it is for me to make dinner, even though the act of making dinner might take less than 30 minutes
