A little short for a starship, isn’t he?

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Sci-fi has issue with scale a lot of the time. Star Trek is no exception. Population numbers and scale of ships is often really bad.

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Look at Deep Space 9 and literally anytime a starship is near it. The scale goes way out of whack.

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In the DS9 title credits you can see engineers repairing the outside of one of the pylons on a spacewalk and the scale feels really wrong

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Oh agreed but I think there’s one major thing which is what really fucks up how your perceive it. There’s nothing to compare it to.

When we see the ship it’s typically just by itself flying through space where there’s no comparison. Or it happens across a ship but same problem as the Enterprise so no reliable comparison. Orbiting a planet, surveying an asteroid, being yanked into a Pulsar, sitting in front of a Borg cube… All of these huge events have literally nothing reliable that humans are familiar with to compare it to. The closest you can say are the windows but the windows are such strange sizes for what we’re used to that it doesn’t help much.

Honestly the biggest ‘events’ that I can think of in Trek media that demonstrate the size of the ship are usually ones where the ship ends up on a planet. Generations crash land, Into Darkness crashland, Voyagers Blue Alert sequences, Discoverys crash land, etc. The only other one I can think of is from Picard Season 3. The Borg cube in Jupiters eye. That thing is fucking massive and the cube took up an enormous amount of space in it. That really shook the hell out of me in seeing how big that vessel was.

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It’s hard for people living on a planet to comprehend how huge space is.

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Space is big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.

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The universe is big. Probably one of the biggest. K. Trout

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Ever played Eve Online? The “Noob ship” you get free when yours goes boom is bigger than a fighter jet, the battleships (fairly big) are about 500 meters and the capital monstrosity stuff gets to a plainly overkill 17 kilometers. And in all of this? It’s hard to figure out the small ships actually need a crew and aren’t just the pilot inside

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Zooming in and realising that little nubbin on your Rifter is actually the whole cockpit is quite the shock!

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Have you seen container ships? They’re perspective-bendingly massive. 400m is a quarter of a mile.

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That’s like, half of a half mile.

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It’s as if it’s two times half of a half of a half of a mile

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How much is that in bananas?

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2 points

Finally I get it!

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I came to Lemmy to avoid this Reddit style comment

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That’s funny. I came to Lemmy to avoid this style of comment where somebody has nothing to add except negativity. I get you don’t like it, but for the “culture” of Lemmy, please just use the freaking downvote button in cases like this

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Going to Lemmy to avoid this type of comment is like going to Arby’s to avoid diarrhea.

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12 points

Humans gonna be Human.

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Thanks because this image still didn’t help. Most people don’t see container ships very often.

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11 points

Or 40% of a kilometre.

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Sorry, they use miles in Star Trek. Ha ha, America wins. Stupid Europe and your stupid metric system and stupid rail network and stupid universal healthcare.

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Never heard them use fantasy imperial system, are you sure?

Maybe in TOS, but didn’t see much of that. But definitely not in TNG and everything that followed.

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5 points

Nobody knows what kilometres are.

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Really, it’s quite easy. Just picture a container ship. Now double it and add an eighth of a mile. Simples.

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Yeah but youre also saying that the bridge of the enterprise was about the size of a container, which i am not sure is accurate.

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5 points

Have you seen a container?

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52ft or something long. Go look for a RV or camper. Simply because they are sold by the foot.

A 40ft camper is pretty huge and can easily fit 6-10 people comfortably.

People turn containers into apartment type buildings for a family of 2-3.

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8 points

We get oil exploration rigs docking in our little port downtown. Mind bending is right.

Sat in the park and watched one roll in one day. Went from:

There it is!

Damn, looks pretty big.

My. God.

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wait, exploration rigs?

Those things that look like platforms rather than boats?

they can dock?

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Nah, you’re talking about drilling platforms that are pretty much set in place. These are giant ships that explore and lay pipe.

Not sure which one this is, but it’s what I’m talking about.

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Even those things aren’t build on location. They build them on land and then sail them to the location they want.

They can even be moved after they were done drilling

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that’s the origin of picard’s famous saying “I live my life a 1.304E-14 parsec at a time”

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Parsecs are units of distance, Han.

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3 points

He took a shortcut.

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45 points

Going by the caption, it’s the container ship they had a hard time visualizing. Seems weird because I’ve seen container ships IRL but never a starship.

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I’ve never seen either. I’ll have to convert this to “cruise ship”

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8 points

Ok… the one I am familiar with is Disney Wonder at 294m long

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Disney Cruise line is the best! That was the first thing I thought of to compare this to.

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37 points

I used to work at a port and would see those ships out at sea. They look like they are just offshore.

Then you see the fishing boats go out and all but disappear against the massive backdrop. You realize they’re many many miles out.

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It seems bigger on TV…

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TV adds 20 pounds.

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