Manufacturers donā€™t make displays under 6 inches available for purchase, with special cases (such as the iPhone Mini) being made under exclusive contracts. The best lead they have so far is to try to use displays designed for the front part of a foldable phone, but theyā€™re yet to strike an agreement.

TIL that display manufacturers are also part of the reason why we arenā€™t getting small phones and why itā€™s probably even harder for manufacturers like Fairphone to make them.

104 points

I just want one with a removable battery and a headphone jackā€¦

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48 points

And SD card support. Why TF do I want to pay a mint for storage when I could spend like $50 (or less) for the equivalent (or more) in SD form?

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26 points

itā€™s not that you want to, but rather that the companies want to charge you $100 more for $5 of ROM.

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12 points

Either that or get you on a cloud storage subscription

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Not just that, but they get to charge $100 dollars more for the $5 of ROM while avoiding the support costs and reputation hit of idiots who force the SD card in the wrong way or blaming the device when the SD card is inevitably sheered in half after being forgotten about during a battery replacement.

Unfortunately every market incentive just aligns against expandable storage in phones.

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2 points

Read Only Memoryā€¦?

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11 points

This, also should the phone die, you can still take out the card and donā€™t lose your photos (fuck the cloud).

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And if was off the phone thereā€™d be nothing to take out. All my shit is stored in a combo of on my home server and hosted space. Not Google, not apple, not a privacy invading data miner. Cloud doesnā€™t equal evil.

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Use common sense, most donā€™t want them, theyā€™ve proven to be unreliable vs real memory, and it lessens the ability to waterproof phones.

The overwhelming majority uses and prefers cloud storage. Whether external or self hosted. Pay a mint? Literally costs pennies on the dollar for pretty respectable amounts.

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26 points

Wait until 2027 and buy a Sony then, I guess. Theyā€™re the only manufacturer who consistently includes a headphone jack and starting in 2027 all phones sold in the EU have to have removable batteries. Yeah, itā€™s pretty sad that thatā€™s the only optionā€¦

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12 points

Guess Iā€™ll be moving to the EU in a few years ;-;

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33 points

You donā€™t need to; the Brussels effect has you covered.

Itā€™s cheaper to sell phones with replaceable batteries worldwide than to design the same phone twice for different markets. So most major manufacturers will probably just sell EU-friendly phones everywhere just like when the EU required USB charging ports.

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4 points

Yeah, itā€™s pretty great here lol

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Way to be overly dramatic. Ever hear of shipping? But enjoy being over taxed and privacy being more invaded than what the US does.

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13 points

Like the old days, man

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8 points

I donā€™t mind not having a removable battery, and a headphone jack is nice but not make or breakā€¦ but so few phones apparently have expandable storage these days.

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12 points

This brothers me so much. Itā€™s such an obvious cash grab - manufacturers can force you to buy a more expensive model of the same phone, cloud services can tap your wallet for additional space, and carriers can tap your wallet for a larger data plan.

Itā€™s gross. Thereā€™s literally no consumer-friendly reason to strip it.

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2 points

While I like having the options and agree itā€™s pretty shitty to remove those features, how do you use up all your storage? I upgraded to 256GB and am no where near filling it.

Iā€™ve seen people argue they need to store a ton of media, but Iā€™d argue you donā€™t need to keep a backup of everything in your phone. Rotate media out after you watched it or whatever.

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Iā€™ve nearly 40 gigabytes of FLACs as well as commissioned art (much smaller in size than my music collection) stored on a 256 gigglebyte card in my phone. While the 128 gigs built into my phone is more than enough, when itā€™s time to get a new phone all I gotta do is slap it into the new phone and boom, gucci. That convenience, on top of only needing to remove the card to add stuff to it, is why an SD card slot is non negotiable for me.

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8 points

Me too, Fan, me too.

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5 points

ā€¦and a qwerty keyboard.

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4 points

At the last EU is fighting to make your first wish happen.

RIP headphone jacks.

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I donā€™t understand why we canā€™t have a phone a usb C port on top and bottom for audio + charging

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49 points

Meanwhile me, a 6ā€™4" man with big ass hands, is finally happy that most phones actually feel big enough for my fucking hands for once

Have an older iPhone we use at work and I almost canā€™t type on it with how small the fuckin screen is lol

But yeah, options are nice, make small screens more often ya nerds

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I just want a small screen and a physical keyboard like phones had when BlackBerry was still a thing. I had absolutely no trouble blind tiping on those even tho I have sausage fingers.

These days I depend on autocorrect and it betrays me fairly often

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I moved from the normal sized iPhone to the Max this year. No regrets so far. The most common thing I do with my phone is consume media so the cumbersomeness has been a good tradeoff.

I had bought a 15 Pro on release day but returned it for the max after a week of continuing to doubt myself after holding a max in the store. I had jumbophones up till the iPhone X, I even had a Dell Streak back in the day.

Most suprising thing to me was that the speaker was insainely better. I stopped carrying a Bluetooth speaker around with me for when Iā€™m working cause the speakers get the job done well enough now. Itā€™s not a 1-to-1 replacement but it is just ggod enough that it suffices. Also, the battery life from the smaller phone to the larger was such a big increase that Iā€™ve stopped carrying around an external battery but just keep a usbc cable with my in case my ecig runs out of battery and I need to charge it off my phone.

Itā€™s been an interesting series of trade offs going back to a larger phone but then again, the bezels and thickness have reduced so much that a Max without a case feels the same as a normal size phone with a case. I thought Iā€™d get bit by the screen being too big more than I have but I guess some honest self reflection on what I actually use my phone for compared to what I picture I use it for helped with the decision making. (I totally get that other peopleā€™s use cases with have completely calculus)

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I donā€™t get what the obsession with big phones is. Is it that most people really want big phones or that companies can charge more for them?

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33 points

Itā€™s not that people want big phones, itā€™s that people like big screens.

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24 points

Two main reasons I think:

  • itā€™s easier to make a big phone as thereā€™s more space for all the components
  • the average consumer doesnā€™t use computers as much anymore, so people start using their phone for all kinds of things where they benefit from the bigger screen
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First point is incorrect, thereā€™s no easy/hard with the difference in an inch. People donā€™t build phones, machines do. Weā€™re very capable of making small phones. That not what the market wants.

Second point is 100% correct. People want computers, and with crazy battery life, batteries can only be so small if you want capacity. The bigger screens combined with that make the user experience for the majority better.

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Is there a community for confidentlyincorrect?

Itā€™s not about the assembly, but all the components and features you want to cram into the box while still having decent thermals and battery.

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People generally just want the biggest screen they can hold in their hands comfortably.

For most people that seems to have settled into the 6.5-6.7" range, depending on aspect ratio and bezels.

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13 points

Iā€™m old and my eyesight requires them now. Lol

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7 points

For me itā€™s the bigger battery.

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But then the bigger battery has to power a bigger screen šŸ¤”

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3 points

Second option.

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Bigger screens which is the whole appeal with smartphones.

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There isnā€™t one, thereā€™s an ā€œobsessionā€ with phones that are usable by todayā€™s use case, which is computer replacements for the overwhelming majority.

Step outside of the small phone echo chamber and youll see thatā€™s not even remotely what the market demand is. Fine if you like small phones, but youā€™re the minority. If thatā€™s where the money was, theyā€™d still be common.

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Most of the issues people have with Android are one and the same. Compared to a decade ago, there isnā€™t any choice any more

Years ago, there was almost too much variety at times, and manufacturers would experiment heavily alongside Google. Some phones had physical keyboards, some had no headphone jacks, some had no physical buttons at all, and they came in either stupidly small or (at the time) freakishly large.

Now, for some reason Android feels very sanitized, even the shite that manufacturers stick on top of stock to make it feel like itā€™s their product and not Googleā€™s. There arenā€™t even that many manufacturers any more, and unlike the past when Android embraced being a bit different, it all feels like everyone is trying to follow Apple instead of Android leading the packā€¦

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Very surprising that thereā€™s no 5.5" phones on the market. I still have good eyes and Iā€™d rather have more pocket space. Sticking with the pixel 7a for now, but yearning for a new Xperia X Compact.

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9 points

Itā€™s all become so bland.

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33 points

I have small hands and I hate that I have to jerry rig my phone with shit to just reach the upper part of it.

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