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I recently just switched to Pop! and it’s so crazy how much fun linux is now! I was pulling my hair out at Ubuntu because of things like Snaps, trying to get nvidia to work, and so many weird quirks. (My audio just had a low buzzing noise until I reconfigured Pulse, scaling had to be manually set in a config file, I had to change a few nvidia configs to get my games to play at over 30fps, and no native flatpak integration obviously because of snaps)

But with Pop everything just works! Flatpaks are in the pop shop, the distro had an option with nvidia configured out of the box, it’s been the easiest linux setup I’ve ever had. I need to go deeper into the weeds with Fedora and Arch, but goddamn Pop is going to be my go-to from here on out.

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Pop_OS! Is the one I chose to finally move full time to Linux. I have zero regrets. It’s been great

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Running this distro on my laptop for its great window manager. Good stuff!

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It’s just gnome

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Customized gnome with pop tiling manager iirc. It’s a pretty good mobile experience compared to default gnome.

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Snap is what finally forced me to explore the vast selection of distros. Mint Linux is working well for me. I do miss Plasma Desktop though.

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Wonderfull + You are free to install Plasma on your Mint

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I’ve done this, works great.

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Love Mint

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https://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/how-to-install-kde-plasma-desktop-on-linux-mint/

I’m not a fan of Cinnamon either, but switching is easy.

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It’s one of the reasons on my next rebuild I’ll be moving off Ubuntu. I always used Ubuntu because it was stable and you can find articles for almost anything. But there’s some great distros out there now and I don’t like Snaps.

I’m waiting for the next Build of POP OS which should be out soon and I’ll hop over to that probably in the new year.

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…or you could just use Debian.

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…or Mint depending whether they’d rather move up, or down the hierarchy.

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Linux beginner here. Whats snaps?

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It’s a package format that bundles all required libraries, that way you don’t run into the issue with program A requiring library version <1.1 and program B requiring library >1.3.

It leads to larger binaries because these dependencies are bundled, but it solves the issue with old/minimally maintained software not working on new OS versions because they depend on an ancient version of libssl or something.

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Snaps is Ubuntu/Canonicals proprietary package format which is mostly considered a worse alternative to flatpak (another package format) with no real advantages on desktops that Canonical is trying to force on users

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Snaps are not a proprietary package format.

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The backend is proprietary

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yeah, snaps, that’s the only thing holding Ubuntu back

not dpkg and by extension apt being a flaming dumpster fire that will corrupt the package database if you look at it funny and there being no way out of that other than an OS reinstall

not the fact that there are zero tools for managing dependencies when building a program from source and you’re entirely on your own when it comes to what *-dev packages you need to install

not the fact that Ubuntu is one of only two distros out of the hundreds that are out there where you can’t use the computer while it’s installing updates

not Canonical’s general policy of “hey, this technology seems pretty cool, let’s find out whether it’s good or not by forcing it on all our users and seeing if they complain” (see: miri display server, cinnamon desktop, and of course snaps)

not the fact that there are ADS IN THE GODDAMN TERMINAL

not the fact that it’s a Linux distro that thinks it’s smarter than you and does something other than what you told it to based on what it thinks you meant (see: apt install firefox installing the snap) which IMO negates one of the primary reasons to use Linux

no it’s snaps

snaps are the problem

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I don’t know what you’re mostly on.

  • Dpkg is nowadays rock solid. I had 300 debians working together and auto updating at the same time, never had an issue.

  • managing dépendances when building from source, apart from Gentoo being built around the emerge management, no other package manager has any clue about source building dependencies.

  • confused about what’s the problem when using 'buntu while it’s updating.

  • Agree with this one. Fuck Canonical

  • same as above.

  • so it’s snap the problem then?

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  • admittedly it’s been a couple years since I last used Ubuntu, and it may have gotten better in that time

  • I was talking about the AUR

  • see my first response. I remembered Ubuntu occasionally doing what Windows does and forcing a reboot, then spinning for 10-15m doing god knows what. Glad to hear they’ve fixed that

  • as for the last one I was talking about the fact that Canonical is willing to do that in the first place. It’s not the snap itself, it’s the fact that I told it to install a native package and it decided for me what I wanted. Shit like that is why I left Windows behind. “You don’t really want to set your default browser to something other than Edge, do you?”

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Tha aur is cheating, it’s basically a script to install the correct dependancies. It’s also not integrated natively into pacman so it’s not related to the package manager itself.

Ok I understand what you mean for your last point

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Cinnamon Desktop? Cononical? Since when was Linux Mint owned by Canonical?

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Did I say Cinnamon I meant Unity

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