151 points

There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.

BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.

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and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;

Is that true though?

We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.

I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.

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Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message

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5 points

Block those communities or ask the admins of your instance to defederate if there’s not much redeeming content from the offending instance(s).

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I’ve unsubbed, but the community in question is a major source of content so I’m not about to block it. I just treat the comments like I do on YouTube.

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5 points

I don’t really get verbal abuse but I feel like there are a lot more posts that I click on with the intent of commenting only to read the existing comments and deciding not to comment so I don’t wade into pile of shit.

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that has been the opposite of my experience.

and i frequently bring up controversial topics here that would get some bigger communities on reddit rabid.

and when people respond negatively, they are very rarely an asshole about it.

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3 points

No. Lemmy had a lull in toxicity during the fuck Spez rush, but my toxic meter reads way higher here than on reddit (although any anonymous community is going to lean toxic).

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7 points

I think consenting opinions are even less welcome here than on Reddit. Which is wild, considering Reddit already wasn’t great with it.

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Right?

And also, I noticed that when I decide to be a dick (not proud of it, but hey what can you do), I always get away with it. On Reddit eventually a mod wakes up and takes charge.

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-3 points

Oh no, meanness!

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Removed by mod
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Yea I don’t know where the “reddit so toxic, Lemmy so good” stuff is coming from. Reddit was never toxic in recent years, just generic as shit with the same comments everywhere.

Lemmy has far more… Passionate users, to put it kindly.

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Reddit was never toxic in recent years

Nah dude, you can’t be serious. It obviously varies between the communities and the bubble you created for yourself on Reddit. But even in the smaller somewhat niche subs I frequented had people acting toxic and hostile. And it became more and more in recent years. And I am definitely not talking about all the manospehre, incel and cringe subs. Those are on a whole other level of toxic and at least as bad as similar algorithmic bubbles on Twitter.

There is also toxicity on Lemmy, too. But you can just manage what you consume so much better. Never encountered Hexbear stuff outside of drama posts for example.

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In my experience, every single time I ever posted anything on Reddit I would get like 1 or 2 genuine nice and or helpful replies and the test would be anger and hate. Here that does happen but it’s much rarer, at least to me, so far

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8 points

reddit have more rude comments

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From my experience reddit has gotten waaaaay more toxic over the last few years. And that toxicity was only increasing. I had fairly carefully curated my subscriptions there too, so it wasn’t like I was signed up to only shitty subs.

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21 points

In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.

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There’s a lot of nice people, that’s for sure. It’s a night and day difference.

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metric FUCKTONS less toxicity

I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it’s a large part of why users are leaving. What’s more is that there’s not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.

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And if anyone misses the toxicity (of our city, of our ciiiiity) from Reddit, we can totally emulate that here!

Ummm… I disagree! You’re a butthole because my opinion is different. Also, I didn’t actually do any research, which makes you a double-butthole.

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5 points

I find Lemmy quite a bit more toxic then Reddit and that is bothering me. Was on a post where a cop was full up ambushed and murdered and every single post was praising it. And there was over a hundred posts so not just a couple of wing nuts. Then you got the tankies and a great number of immature posts. Then you got the extreme left leaning slant attitude on every subject that pretty much creates echo chambers along with mods that will shadow ban. Technically working well, administratively and quality wise the experience is pretty low.

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2 points

Maybe it’s just my feed, but I miss the diversity, lemmy is biased towards tech-nerd people

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Well even if I wanted to go back to Reddit, I couldn’t use it without a decent mobile app, and all of those no longer exist.

Communities don’t spring up fully formed, they grow over time with many rises and falls in activity along the way. Lemmy is still young and we can all do our part to help it.

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And using the mobile web site is a pain in the ass, too. Won’t stop nagging me to use the app. No, I do not want to use your shitty app!

At this point I only use it when a thread comes up in a search result, or occasionally to check /r/buildapcsales

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5 points

old.reddit.com

It’s not nice but it works for the couple of times a week I check some specific subs that I want to stay in.

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3 points

old.reddit might be discontinued. Reddit is already torn apart

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Yeah the thing about Lemmy is that people immediately expect it to be a reddit clone with all the same niche communities. Reddit didn’t start off with thousands of communities on Day 1. It started off as Reddit. Then they added NSFW and pics. It took decades to grow. People that expect Lemmy to appear with all those same communities overnight but it’s just not gonna happen. You’ve got to give it time. Instead of posting in your favorite football team’s community, you might have to post to the NFL community. Eventually as we grow, more niche communities will spring up.

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59 points

Now I’m sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.

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Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.

Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.

I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.

There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.

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Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There’s the 90-9-1% rule for a reason

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Also, I imagine a lot of people created profiles on more than one instance while making the transition and then abandoned the others.

I originally started on lemmy.world but now just use fedit.uk

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10 points

Pretty heavy lurker here. Maybe I need to start doing my part and raise those numbers

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7 points

I sometimes have a twinge of guilt about it too. When I was younger and had more free time, I would spend time on actual submissions and not just comment. But I’m too old and tired for that shit these days.

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52 points

Does it matter if Lemmy is losing users? I haven’t noticed my feeds losing active users even if it’s down across the fediverse. Besides they’ll be back the next time Reddit has another unpopular decision which should take about another 3 months

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I think it very much matters WHY Lemmy is losing users. If it’s a fixable problem, well then we should fix it gahdamnit

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6 points

I think it’s hard to maintain a critical mass in an anonymous social media/aggregator. You need enough fresh content to satisfy users, and you need enough users to provide that user driven content.

If you’re only in the popular Lemmy channels then you probably wouldn’t notice the users leaving, but the small communities are the first to go.

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The main problem is just that it’s harder to get started with it than it is to just hop on another social media site and browse. It requires a bit of effort, and that’s like being second to start a race. It’s always going to be hard to catch up.

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3 points

Good point

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11 points

Exactly. I would never have guessed Lemmy is losing users if every other meme wasn’t about it. Stuff still seems just as lively now as it was a couple months ago.

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It’s weird right? I checked the active user monthly and across the lemmyverse it’s indeed plunging slowly, but the content seems to be growing despite that, significantly better than from june to august.

Though the instance i’m on is very slow.

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plunging slowly

Thanks for a new oxymoron

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5 points

It’s like highspeed trainwreck in slow motion.

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I wonder if it’s just instances going down for a while, I know the one i am on goes down every now and then, and sometimes takes over a week to get back and running. I could see something like that causing the active users to fluctuate, especially if they wait a month before realizing their instance wasn’t deleted.

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Hmm, might not be, because as long as someone commented/posted in that month it count as active user, so basically as long as the instance is up and someone is posting/commenting, it will count. I feels like it’s mostly barely active people stop showing up, so a slow decline is seen for this two months

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44 points

Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we’d ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we’ll be better prepared.

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We need more “subs” like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT… I’d engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed

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32 points

These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don’t have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It’ll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.

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I feel like for subs like those to pop up, the barrier to entry needs to drop really low. We lean even more technical than reddit did now, and to encourage subs like those, you kinda need a healthy population of non-technical people.

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