174 points

We have to stop identifying ownership with these billionaires and “their work” because it’s not. It’s a team of people who got together to accomplish a mission whether they succeeded or failed. How often is their success just a leader getting out of their way, and how often is failure because leadership was overbearing and “used their authority” to make poor decisions over the group.

“We” society only ever focus on these individuals and it’s horribly incorrect to do so.

We need to forget the celebrities and identity the groups.

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Absolutely. As someone who manages a small team, my duties are advocating for the people who work for me, listening to the people closest to the problem, mediating disputes between people with different solutions, and ensuring we are all working towards the same overall goals. Most of the success of the team is directly attributed to their work. My biggest contribution is making sure they have what they need to do their job.

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So, since you’re support staff and economically a cost center and not a producer, they make more than you, right? You advocate for their wages first, right?

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18 points

I mean, despite the down votes I thought this was pretty based, even if it came across as a personal attack.

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Not everyone in my position is a sniveling little shit, as much as you may think. I do get paid more than my team, but not by some ridiculous margin. The lowest paid person gets 70% what I do and the highest paid person is at 95%. When I took over it was no shit closer to 40% for the lowest paid member. I fought for that to be fixed and burned up a lot if political capital doing it too.

When COVID came along and pay cuts and layoffs were a real threat, I told my boss to cut my salary before anyone else’s. We never had to, thankfully, but I literally told him I would quit if they cut one of my subordinates pay or laid them off without first taking out of my pocket.

I had a direct report who, for three years wanted to be in a leadership role. I fought for a new position for him and put my own ass on the line recommending him for promotion every chance I got. He’s been promoted past me and I hope (since I can’t see his salary anymore) he is getting paid more than me because he’s earned it.

I’m not some superstar manager, but I do feel like I keep my team out of the political battles and turf wars so they can focus on doing what they do best without dealing with all that crap. That’s my job. When something goes wrong, I’m accountable. So when the people doing the work get it wrong and take a critical system offline by fat fingering a command, I’m the one answering the phones and taking all the shit for it and smoothing things over with stake holders. And unless it was a result of gross negligence, I’m not going to give them hell for it either because I’ve fucking been there before.

I didn’t even want this damn job. I was perfectly happy being the technical lead and not having job recruiting and performance reviews to do, but I took it because I knew at the very least I would do my best to advocate for the people I care about, and that’s not something I could say about everyone who applied.

So you can make snap judgements and assume because I manage a team that I’m just collecting a paycheck while everyone else does all the hard work, but I don’t and I won’t because it’s unethical and shitty and despite your own insecurities, I actually give a fuck about other people.

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Hey, if these guys do everything they can to make sure their companies’ “achievements” are considered all their own doing; let’s be fair and attribute all the fault of their failures as well.

But you’re right, billionaires ride on the shoulders of the people that do the actual hard work.

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Anytime management gets involved with our work, it’s because there was a monumental fuck-up or because somebody is doing too much micro-management. In either case, it’s thrice as stressful as a normal project that goes slow as shit because everything has to be run by the big person.

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99 points

Man he even looks like he’s starting his metamorphosis into trump.

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41 points

Fat and old with enough money to keep it all together, but not enough self awareness to keep it together well.

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19 points

That’s like calling him a loser with extra steps

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7 points

How fitting then. His whole life is just being a loser with extra steps.

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9 points

He spent a bunch of dough on that hair. I believe he is likely aware of his appearance. He is pale and overweight because he spends a bunch of time playing video games, being a nazi in his failing social media site, and (based on this picture) eating french fries.

Maybe at some point his vanity will compel him to get liposuction or just go full orange man with spray tan and wear baggy suits with ties that are too long. I don’t see him being like Bezos or Zuck and getting into shape.

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5 points

Meh, Musk has plenty of shitty qualities that deserve criticism, we don’t really need to pick on his appearance.

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Becoming The Sad Blob: the Elon musk story

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I hate the photoshopped photos of those “celebrities” in the news.

I mean splash one of the Elon news on this photo mother fuckers!

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He’s a successful scammer, for sure, but at the end of the day still a scammer who got fired for incompetence and then got lucky.

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A scammer who is the CEO of 2 of the most valuable companies in the US…

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26 points

That’s how scammers work, yes …

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26 points

“most valuable companies” lol

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A scammer who used his money he made through scamming to become CEO, and then to scam even more:

  • Scams his employees by paying too little or not at all

  • Scams his money lenders by breaking their investment

  • Scams his customers by asking premium prices for underperforming products

  • Scams governments out of funding

  • Scams new tech startups by suing them in order to be called a founder

  • Scams every person in every country his companies operate in by not paying the taxes he is owed

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I wasn’t talking about Twitter.

SpaceX launched 60% of three global space launch market, I would say that’s pretty damn important. Also, Starlink.

In any case, it’s obviously the people who work at these companies that are doing the work, not Mr muskrat.

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Are you going to tell us next that cigarette companies didn’t scam the public when they knew that their products caused cancer and didn’t reveal it because Phillip-Morris was so valuable?

How about Theranos? At peak it was worth $9 billion. Not a scam, right?

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3 points

I think you meant “least valuable”, because they’re garbage.

I want downvotes too, you know.

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36 points

He also abuses his X all the time

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33 points

He is a rimworld character.

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2 points

Ohh but which one would he be?

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The annoying weakling that shit himself, that I sold for smokeleaf

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4 points

the guy that sits in my prison for the only reason that i dislike his addictions

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I feel like you don’t know how Rimworld works

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3 points

He definitely looks like the kind of pawn that would get upset and punch the stockpile of explosives.

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3 points

I don’t know, we all have that one guy we put in uranium jail forever

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