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NASA already exists. Feed and house the poor instead, save the planet from greenhouse gases, help create new expensive policies to curb addiction and homelessness. Anything except literally burning money into our atmosphere. What the fuck are landing pads and propulsion guidance systems going to do for the entire planet.
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I don’t have to prove why you’re wrong I just don’t have to agree with you.
“NASA already exists” if his team is doing something never done before and very helpful, that is evidence for the necessity of other space companies besides NASA.
Edit: just so we’re clear, I don’t give two shits about Elaine Mosk.
Like, I don’t know enough about this BS to argue, so I’m just going to believe what you’re saying, but what’s the point?
NASA put people on the moon 54 years ago. Musk has said he’d do it several times now, but he’s not there yet.
He’s also said that he’ll make space travel super cheap, yet his launches cost more than the Russian Soyuz ones used to.
They’ve gotten nowhere near the moon, and Russia does launches cheaper with their WWII tech than Musk does with his cutting edge stuff. So to me it just looks like they’re burning money for funsies.
No it’s not…not at all…
https://marspedia.org/Financial_effort_estimation
Falcon is very successful. On top of that it allows the US and EU to stop providing money to RU for it’s war crimes
Space travel is needed, right now we’re just on big rock away from being a short timeline in the history of the world.
One reason SpaceX is so successful is because of the red tape that’s been removed that NASA had to deal with, getting to the moon isn’t the end goal, it’s just a platform to use as a layover for other travel.
Space travel and colonization of other planets are wildly different problems to solve. We’re nowhere near colonization levels of anything outside the most habitable areas of the earth.
We can’t even create a self-sustaining habitat on Antarctica, and that’s many times easier than Mars, the moon, or whatever other planet in our reach we’re shooting for.
Nothing we’re doing is going to prevent “one big rock” from changing life on earth. And there’s a solutely no possibility of moving humanity anywhere else. Science fiction isn’t a reason to support nonsense.
Yeah musk has little to do with SpaceX success besides just being the money man.
I fully support SpaceX and want them to succeed. I just want musk to be forcibly ejected and the company to be run and managed by more competent and ethical people because it’s obvious from his efforts at Twitter that he has no business running a company, much less one that has real and constant possibilities of bad management meaning the loss of human life.
I feel the same way about Tesla, but Tesla to me is no longer about moving the human race forward. There are better competitors to Tesla, and now that EVs are mainstream, the trash build quality of those vehicles should mean the company should die or be absorbed.
But also I just watched AI ethics die in 48 hours so that rich people could make more money, so fuck me I guess.
Massive success in the interest of science, in the sense that we can learn form our failures? Fine, it’s odd phrasing for a multi-billion dollar corp whose sole aim is to make money by cornering a not-yet existent market.
Dude hasn’t been married since 2016 and still sees his kids, what are you talking about?
Find real reasons to criticize somebody. Better yet, ignore him and make him go away. These posts are worse than the dick rider posts.
How often does he see his trans daughter?
“Can’t win 'em all” was what he said when she rejected him.
I wonder why she might have rejected her father when he’s the richest man in the world and has the potential to make you wealthy and comfortable for the rest of your life?
Maybe he’s not the best father and, like so much else about Elon, you’ve bought into yet more hype.
You’re aware that family members sometimes don’t like each other right? I never said he was father of the year, just that he still sees his kids. He’s got, like, 10.
How have I bought into Elon hype? Because I’m not circlejerking?
Okay, well I’m not sure what “he still sees his kids” means in terms of anything. If someone still sees their kids but beats the shit out of them every time they see them, shouldn’t they never see those kids?
I also hate people acting like the starship test wasn’t a great success. They’re building a factory to build rockets and testing the output of this factory in incremental stages. The next one will go further and the one after that might even land. There’s always the off-chance it’ll just work on the first try, but it’s never expected.
That said, he’s probably still richer than everyone else here.
Why does that matter at all? If anything it shows that wealth has nothing to do with competence
True, but it can buy a lot of people to tell you how smart and wonderful and handsome you are so you can pretend all that bad stuff never happened.
I mean most likely, but I haven’t checked my bank balance in a while so can’t be 100% certain
We have to stop identifying ownership with these billionaires and “their work” because it’s not. It’s a team of people who got together to accomplish a mission whether they succeeded or failed. How often is their success just a leader getting out of their way, and how often is failure because leadership was overbearing and “used their authority” to make poor decisions over the group.
“We” society only ever focus on these individuals and it’s horribly incorrect to do so.
We need to forget the celebrities and identity the groups.
Hey, if these guys do everything they can to make sure their companies’ “achievements” are considered all their own doing; let’s be fair and attribute all the fault of their failures as well.
But you’re right, billionaires ride on the shoulders of the people that do the actual hard work.
Anytime management gets involved with our work, it’s because there was a monumental fuck-up or because somebody is doing too much micro-management. In either case, it’s thrice as stressful as a normal project that goes slow as shit because everything has to be run by the big person.
Absolutely. As someone who manages a small team, my duties are advocating for the people who work for me, listening to the people closest to the problem, mediating disputes between people with different solutions, and ensuring we are all working towards the same overall goals. Most of the success of the team is directly attributed to their work. My biggest contribution is making sure they have what they need to do their job.
So, since you’re support staff and economically a cost center and not a producer, they make more than you, right? You advocate for their wages first, right?
I mean, despite the down votes I thought this was pretty based, even if it came across as a personal attack.
Not everyone in my position is a sniveling little shit, as much as you may think. I do get paid more than my team, but not by some ridiculous margin. The lowest paid person gets 70% what I do and the highest paid person is at 95%. When I took over it was no shit closer to 40% for the lowest paid member. I fought for that to be fixed and burned up a lot if political capital doing it too.
When COVID came along and pay cuts and layoffs were a real threat, I told my boss to cut my salary before anyone else’s. We never had to, thankfully, but I literally told him I would quit if they cut one of my subordinates pay or laid them off without first taking out of my pocket.
I had a direct report who, for three years wanted to be in a leadership role. I fought for a new position for him and put my own ass on the line recommending him for promotion every chance I got. He’s been promoted past me and I hope (since I can’t see his salary anymore) he is getting paid more than me because he’s earned it.
I’m not some superstar manager, but I do feel like I keep my team out of the political battles and turf wars so they can focus on doing what they do best without dealing with all that crap. That’s my job. When something goes wrong, I’m accountable. So when the people doing the work get it wrong and take a critical system offline by fat fingering a command, I’m the one answering the phones and taking all the shit for it and smoothing things over with stake holders. And unless it was a result of gross negligence, I’m not going to give them hell for it either because I’ve fucking been there before.
I didn’t even want this damn job. I was perfectly happy being the technical lead and not having job recruiting and performance reviews to do, but I took it because I knew at the very least I would do my best to advocate for the people I care about, and that’s not something I could say about everyone who applied.
So you can make snap judgements and assume because I manage a team that I’m just collecting a paycheck while everyone else does all the hard work, but I don’t and I won’t because it’s unethical and shitty and despite your own insecurities, I actually give a fuck about other people.
