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It’s not a show of courage to stay at a job you’ve committed to working, nor is it boot licking. It’s plain and simple economic necessity and whether you like it or not you’re going to end up working for someone else no matter what job you have, whether it’s in healthcare, education, science, or even as an independent artist.

It IS weak and soft to quit a job just because it places demands on your time and expectations that you’ll actually do the job during the required hours with the required professional attitude. You’re most likely never going to find a job where you have total control, can come in whenever you want, do whatever you want, don’t have to do anything to earn a paycheck… that’s a fantasy and not the reality of the world we live in.

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what’s wrong witth being soft

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Go ahead and be that way and see how far you get in life. If this was a fantasy world made of unicorn farts and marshmallow fluff, being soft would make perfect sense. But it isn’t, and the real world is full of demands, unfairness, and expectations. You don’t have to meet any of them, but don’t complain about your life in a cardboard box under the overpass - because that’s on you.

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Go ahead and be that way and see how far you get in life.

Better things are possible. We create our world, there is no reason it has to be as uncaring as it is. And the only way to make a change for the better is to abandon your way of thinking.

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72 points

I had a colleague who loved to opine on a bit of everything including “millennials”. He was talking about “soft resignations” and explained them succinctly as “it’s when you’re annoyed that you’re overlooked at work so you don’t put any extra effort in don’t work any extra hours and only do the minimum and then wonder why you don’t get promoted”.

It was hilarious but sad how he could just so utterly fail to grasp the point that to me was just staring him right in the face as he struggled to explain. He’s an okay guy really, and it’s just a shame that his penchant for everything to fit in to nice neat stories with conveniently stupid straw men to beat in each of them really gets in the way of him having any more than the shallowest understanding of the people and world around him.

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Some people just don’t want to climb the ladder anymore. I’m not soft resigning or quiet quitting by doing exactly my job description and nothing more - I’m settling and content.

I wish this wasn’t such a foreign or bad concept to those in business.

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53 points

My experience in the corporate world has been that working hard, overachieving, and putting in long hours only results in getting more work assigned and those extra hours to become expected. No rewards or recognition or anything beyond more work, and getting negative reviews scores when you stop putting in extra hours and just work 40 a week.

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7 points

Honestly, this is just contracting 101. If we squint really hard and imagine our W2’s as 1099’s, the problems practically leap off the page.

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32 points

i’ve never understood the corporate ladder, my goal in life is to work as little as possible while having enough income to live as enjoyable a life as possible.

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8 points

I wouldn’t put it that way. Seems overly pessimistic. I enjoy my work. That’s part of the reason I don’t want to climb the corporate ladder. It doesn’t take long before your day is less work than meetings.

But if you don’t set some boundaries, they’ll gladly consume your entire life and not even notice. If you have to tell them a reason you can’t be available at 6pm today, there’s already an issue.

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9 points

You don’t climb the ladder by working hard these days.

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20 points

My wife and I were discussing how she has worked hard all her life and tried to be a model employee everywhere only to be accused of embezzlement when others stole from her till (and were eventually caught) and casually dismissed and insurance cut off after a lifetime of paying into it. I have dealt with the same sort of treatment when working for others. We’re both honest people and naively thought that work was rewarded. It is not.

Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.

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Either work for yourself or dont work at all. Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.

How is any of this optional?

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8 points

I think they assume that you follow their advice and are now “working for yourself”, which I assume to mean create your own business such as a consulting company, a store, etc. With that assumption, and this is obviously not legal advice, I believe, in the US, you don’t have to contribute to social security if your business has under a certain number of employees. I also think not all states require disability insurance under similar business size limits (this one I am less sure of).

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11 points

the real solution is to unionize

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Also, disability insurance and SS are a fucking farce so cover your own ass and quit giving the government your money.

Yikes. For anyone looking into it. https://ssabest.benefits.gov/

In 2023, an average of almost 67 million Americans per month will receive a Social Security benefit, totaling about $1.4 trillion in benefits paid during the year.

PDF Warning: https://www.ssa.gov/news/press/factsheets/basicfact-alt.pdf

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Yikes Fun fact: not enough to survive, and applying without being denied and being forced to hire law firms is the norm, not the outlier. By contrast that same government blew nearly 20 trillion on principle and interest for wars with no benefit to any American people. Meanwhile one party is actively working to eliminate all SS and disability insurances since it’s already crippled this far.

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Yikes Fun fact: not enough to survive

It was never meant to be. It’s supplemental income. The government has always expected people to be able to ‘save’ somehow or also pay for injury insurance. Hence supplemental income. Unfortunately the vast majority of disabled people often never had great resources to begin with.

The maximum payout is also loosely scaled to Federal Poverty Levels which can be woefully low depending on the Cost of Living in most areas. It was also not meant to support an entire family, it was meant to support 1 person.

In 2023, the estimated average Social Security disability benefit for a disabled worker receiving Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) is $1,489 per month

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/082015/what-are-maximum-social-security-disability-benefits.asp

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-33 points

One day, our whole economy is going to collapse, and we wont have anyone to blame because everyone was just living their best life. Smash that like button if you are fighting for 8 hour work weeks, unlimited PTO, free housing and no taxes.

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9 points

Good fuck the economy it only serves the rich

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6 points

Only dumb people want no taxes. The rest like their society to be non-anarchy thank you very much.

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That’s true because there can’t be any economy of any kind without taxes. It’s not fair that rich people don’t pay their fair share, but without taxes there are no funds for schools or stores or small business or anyone else. It would mean having no economy at all, and no goods or services to sell or buy.

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Boomers say that shit because back when they were young, you could actually advance by working hard in a shitty job. Of course, they pulled the ladder up once they got to the cushy positions.

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Yup. The guy who came to america to mow lawns is definitely killing it because he had it easy. Or maybe the guy who came to work in a field… or in a car auto manufacturer… wait that went out of business… hmmmm oh yes the guy who is now a manager at your local burger king, yeah he had it easy. Fuck him. The median wage across the US is 54k though so maybe its only some select people.

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54k is barely a living wage these days. You CAN live on it, but you can’t expect to start a family or buy a house or achieve anything resembling The American Dream.

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8 points

Depends on where you live. Some parts of America are dirt cheap, including housing. Although those areas typically have shit wages too.

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Im replying to your blanket comment that boomers in general have it easier which they absolutely dont. You like to cherry pick the happy ending stories where boomers sit on their manegerial high chairs like crying babies and choose to ignore that MOST people are struggling right now, boomer or not. Dont discredit hard work.

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57 points

Back then it was called “a fair days work”.

It hasn’t been “fair” for a long time.

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26 points

What’s that I hear, you don’t want to be on call after hours for no extra pay?

Sounds like you’re not much a team player. And only team players get to work here.

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15 points

We’re a faaaaaamily here.

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6 points

“We WoRk HaRd AnD pLaY hArD”

Where does the play ever come in and wtf does this even mean.

Being on call with a random schedule AND winning the company softball game? No can do, chief.

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16 points

If I get a PhD (which I have to pay for) and work for twenty years in my job, my salary caps out at ~60k.

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9 points

What field? That’s wild to me, and horribly unjust.

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15 points

Teaching.

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