I posted this yesterday:
And apparently this warrants a instant permaban.
They don’t even tell you what rule it breaks. Which one do you think it might break?
In any case, every time I visit Reddit and look at my local subs (Montréal, Québec or Canada) I look at the comments and they’re absolutely vile. The community has become so fucking toxic it’s unbearable. And I also realized how my mental health actually improved since I left that community.
They can keep the permaban. I don’t give a shit anymore. I’m so over that god forsaken place.
Peace out.
Quick update:
I contancted the mods and apparently I was permabanned for spamming and they immediately muted me so I wouldn’t be able to message the mods any further. I can understand that it can be considered spamming, but I feel they’re being extremely harsh over this. They really have no chill.
Well, it’s /r/Canada, which is just a right winged mod-controlled shit hole. All the progressives went to /r/onguardforthee a long time ago.
I left Reddit with the API fiasco and never looked back. Happier without it.
r/Canada is literally run with conservative propaganda efforts in mind. It’s not surprised that any attempt to pull people out of the echo chamber is met with an instant ban.
It was like a mini The_Donald for awhile. Mods there want to keep control of a potential propaganda channel.
There’s a narrative going around that the subreddit is under attack by white supremacists, but honestly that’s just what Canada is like. If you know how to see their style of polite racism you’d know that they’re 300x more vile than your average American, they just hide it a lot better.
… I mean, they do have nazi moderators, but that’s like 99% of reddit.
I look at the comments and they’re absolutely vile. The community has become so fucking toxic it’s unbearable.
So, maybe it’s best to not invite people from there to Lemmy?
I was hoping to bring awareness in case anybody else was sick and tired and wanted something fresh.
In any case, every time I visit Reddit and look at my local subs (Montréal, Québec or Canada) I look at the comments and they’re absolutely vile. The community has become so fucking toxic it’s unbearable. And I also realized how my mental health actually improved since I left that community.
I used to dread seeing that I had messages on Reddit. My first thought would be “Oh, what did I do now?”. On Lemmy, I’m much more interested in seeing any responses to my comments.
3 or 4 times people reported me as a risk to myself on reddit, and this suicide prevention hotline bot would then send messages with long lists of number to call.
Turning this tool into a weapon against me, simply because I am pro-vaccine was just pathetic and gross.
Lemmy feels like the internet used to. Not about ads and algorithms, but just people interested in things asking questions and engaging naturally.
I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, but I don’t think Lemmy has any hope of survival as a truly global platform.
I’ve been through this a few times: Usenet, Digg, Reddit. They started off small and stayed mostly civil even though there is a wide range of opinion. Then they start growing rapidly and people see an opportunity to “get their message out”, whether that’s spam, personal aggrandizement, a political message, or whatever: exploitation vs participation. After a while it becomes just too much for some people, so they find somewhere else to congregate.
As they leave, that platform becomes ever more useless, leading to more migration. The platform eventually becomes useless even to the exploiters, so they figure out where everyone went and follow them.
And the cycle continues. I think that the cycle can only accelerate as “exploiters” become more proactive in following “participants” to new homes. That implies an eventual breakdown of the whole concept of global discussion communities. Are we seeing that already on Lemmy? I don’t know, but I’m registered on 4 different instances, each with their own primary focus, and there has already been a bit of federation/defederation drama on every one them.
I think the only way to break the cycle is to figure out a way to eliminate exploitation. That may well be impossible, at least on any platform that has global reach, centralized or not. As far as I can tell, those who would exploit a system have always found ways to do so.
I’ve been through this a few times: Usenet, Digg, Reddit. They started off small and stayed mostly civil even though there is a wide range of opinion. Then they start growing rapidly and people see an opportunity to “get their message out”, whether that’s spam, personal aggrandizement, a political message, or whatever: exploitation vs participation. After a while it becomes just too much for some people, so they find somewhere else to congregate.
But is this a bad thing? Even if Lemmy ‘doesn’t survive’ (which I think is a fair way off, personally) something else will take its place. Something always does; ICQ dies, people move to AOL. Digg dies, people go to reddit, Myspace to Facebook and so on. Look at the absolute graveyards of websites where people used to congregate and play games and talk: Battle.net, Mplayer, WON.net, Digg, Usenet, AOL messenger, ICQ, Myspace, there are dozens of these things that, at the time, we felt like would always be there.
Enjoy it while it’s here. Make it the best place you can.
Yeah, I totally get that. I think that there is this insatiable desire for the upstart site to topple the previous site. On Digg we made fun of Usenet and Fark, on Reddit we made fun of Digg, on Lemmy people are always saying “fuck Spez”.
I think that people are worried that if Lemmy doesn’t keep growing (at Reddit’s expense), then it will collapse under its own weight. I hope the federated model works out. I could easily host a Lemmy or KBin instance on my homelab.
But yeah, the depressing truth is that as soon as someone invents a profit motive, it’s only a matter of time before it’s ruined.
I get excited when people post to my c/Montreal community! It’s kinda dead unfortunately, tempted to staple posters around the city.
/r/canada is a cesspit with a white nationalist mod.
The sane Canadians always stuck to /r/onguardforthee
Man I can’t believe this shit’s coming over here now…
OGFT is not “the sane one” it’s controlled opposition. Their mods protect known trolls including that one that dominates their subreddit with dozens of articles that nobody ever reads. The only actual content on that subreddit is meta drama designed to rope people in. Yet still despite all of that you still have people repeating “they’re the sane ones” every single time r/cananda comes up, because it’s all they have.
Read the place as an anti-advertisement for [nazi subreddit redacted] and it makes more sense what they’re doing.
Left /r/canada because all of the racially/bigotry motivated posts I was seeing.
Got banned from ogft for suggesting that racially/bigotry motivated posts aren’t excused when the target is the group you decide is the “bad group.” and that saying such a thing is not advocating defense of the bad actors on the other side doing the same thing.
I guess just looking for a place to discuss Canadian things without people attacking others for their body they were born into, or things they otherwise have no control over is just a pipe dream.
Imagine treating unique individuals as unique individuals, and not defining them or yourself entirely by the bodies you were born into.
Im sorry my opinions are so spicy.
