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Those have gotten a lot better in recent years. Last time I had an issue with WiFi drivers was in 2016.

Graphics drivers, on the other hand, especially Optimus…

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Some of us are still recovering from the trauma

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I never have. Just thinking about WiFi and Bluetooth drivers on random laptops still puts me into a full flashback state. (My first experience was back in 2002, I think?)

However, getting all of that stuff working was the best learning experience I ever had. At the time, I was just learning about IT security and WiFi pcap was all the rage back then.

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I never have. Just thinking about WiFi and Bluetooth drivers on random laptops still puts me into a full flashback state. (My first experience was back in 2002, I think?)

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Same, flashbacks to being in college trying to get Wi-Fi working in Fedora on my laptop and then struggling to get it to work with my uni’s new Wi-Fi system. Frustrating, but a great learning experience as you said.

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With you on that. I remember struggling in 2004 with WiFi drivers, ugh.

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3 points

I sometimes still think about the time I was trying to print in 1996.

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Even a decade ago it usually meant ticking a box that you also allowed nonfree drivers.

Even Debian allowed you to download the specific nonfree driver you needed and add it (without Internet) at imaging so post install you could connect with wifi and not just Ethernet.

It’s come a long way. But doesn’t anyone else remember when windows did not have drivers and you’d constantly be confronted with “have disk”?

I mean, the amount of drivers for old hardware I still have saved… Because before win10 nothing would reliability always fetch the driver you need from the net…

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This reminds me of the big USB drive of drivers that we had at a PC repair shop. When Windows 7 failed to find drivers, we’d stick that in and give it a scan.

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I remember that, but for Xp. Downloading a “driver pack”, pointing windows at the root of the folder, and praying.

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6 points

Ticking the non-free driver box was child’s play. As late as like 2012 I remember needing to download NDISwrapper so I could make the windows drivers work through a compatibility layer

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Oh god, why did you have to trigger that memory???

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I mean, if you buy broadcom you reap what you sow. And 2012 was 11 years ago. ;-)

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The nvidia driver has had this bug for a year now, still unfixed. Games will randomly crash with an Xid 109 error in dmesg. Some people (including myself) are unable to play games like Cyberpunk, Resident Evil 2-3-4-7-8 and Metro Exodus. And it’s not linked to proton either, it sometimes also crashes xorg itself, forcing a reboot. I’m starting to think nvidia will never bother fixing it.

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3% desktop marketshare, it’s stop to pick up money, not go out of your way money.

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I just had to deal with nvidia breaking xwayland and making it unusable with an update

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You should switch to rolling release memes, yours are outdated.

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Please get this bad boy working well on rolling release, then:

https://gitlab.com/TuxThePenguin0/bes2600

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This isn’t a Linux compatibility issue. You bought a device where the manufacturer told you in advance that a driver for the built-in wifi module doesn’t exist yet. It’s a product at the development stage.

So just follow the manufacturer’s recommendation from the product page: use a wifi dongle for now and pat yourself on the back for being an early adopter.

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Having the device, I already tether the wifi. But it is indeed a compatibility issue: the old kernel drivers for the chip were janky and it’s doubtful how well they even worked the time. The code is apparently such a hot mess that the people who were working on it have stopped making progress. There is now skepticism that it will ever be fully functional.

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4 points

Have some respect for the classics

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Yeah, you’re too young to remember the glory days 😂.

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I’m old enough but it’s not the case anymore.

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All my Wi-Fi just works on any machine I have Linux on. But yeah years ago this was not the case.

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Mine doesn’t work. Definitely linux’s fault that I destroyed its wifi giblets while moving my PC a bit too aggressively

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Now you get to struggle with audio drivers!

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Audio drivers have never really been a problem in my experience, but maybe you’re referring to pulseaudio? In which case, pipewire has been great!

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There’s this one Bluetooth speaker with a microphone that I have, that I had hoped to use for calls, that has just refused to work. Spent hours trying to get them to work but had to admit defeat. But yes, things have improved significantly.

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It works great until you try to use Bluetooth anything and need to connect and disconnect regularly (it can literally freeze your entire system), and don’t get me started with trying to get digital surround to work

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Agreed 👍.

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Am I supposed to have Wifi driver issues? My laptop’s one always worked flawlessly without me having to even look at it

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Wi-Fi used to be a pretty common thing to not work out of the box or to break in updates. I kept a usb Wi-Fi dongle in a bag as a backup just because of this.

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It’s a really simple problem to avoid, and IMO has been for years. It’s been at least 10 years since I’ve bought something without intel wifi so maybe I’m out of touch, but I’m kind of astounded there are so many upvotes to the meme.

My rule for a very long time has been: Get something with intel wifi, or even atheros wifi, and you will almost certainly not have a problem. Get broadcom wifi and your problem will directly relate to how much effort your distro has put into trying to make broadcom not be shit. Stay the fuck way from realtek and mediatek.

That’s it. I literally can’t recall a time since about 2010 when I had a wifi problem with Linux on any device I owned.

I keep two of these in my bag for instant wifi on any device I might happen to be working on that doesn’t have it. Most recently popped one into an old desktop I picked up for my youngest son, and have used it previously as a workaround for someone who had a laptop where the onboard wifi worked but would not come back from sleep. (That was broadcom, IIRC)

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Trust me when I say this, that wasn’t always the case 😔.

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ndiswrapper flashbacks o_o

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I thought I had completely erased this from my memory. Turns out I did not. I would thank you if it wasn’t such a traumatic experience.

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I am so sorry.

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Oh no. My broadcom laptop chip from 2005 was a major pain in the ass and this did not help 😆

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Yeah those were some dark times.

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5 points

You are a bad person

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7 points

I accept this.

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2 points

Debían 3.0… good times.

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BROADCOM …

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Amusingly enough, one of the HP laptops I used in that era actually worked better with ndiswrapper somehow.

It was the only one to do so though.

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Miracles happen I suppose. :D

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“It’s a ndiswrapper miracle!” - a statement only uttered by the completely deranged.

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