51 points

Honestly I get it. Junk food can be addicting. If nothing else try to cut out the soda

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The word is “addictive” btw

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17 points

Using addicting instead is addictive

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18 points

Well that’s a bit passing aggressing of you :(

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5 points

A dick, tiv

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Whoa, amazing contribution to the conversation!

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6 points

The marketing we allow sure doesn’t help.

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3 points

I think cutting the soda goes a very long way. Soda is nothing but empty calories and I feel like I’d it’s so easy to just cut it from your diet.

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Isn’t this what Michelle Obama tried to do? What would you (or anyone else wanting to pitch in) suggest for policies?

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Jamie Oliver as well in the UK. People STILL hate him for trying to feed their kids better than they could. The strength of the desire in people to make life worse for themselves and everyone else makes me hate this fucking country.

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I remember having an argument with a friend about algebra in schools. Her kid was struggling, so she said why does he need to learn it, he can just get a job like hers where it’s not needed. Every other post of hers on Facebook was complaining about her crappy job.

There’s a strange mentality here that we’re all struggling, but nobody should be doing better. If someone does try, they get called out for it and shamed.

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The mentality of the working class passed down.

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The problem with wealthy influencers like him is they always promote expensive food items with meaningless qualifiers. Local, organic, free range, natural etc don’t mean shit when you are broke. Teach people how to make healthy dishes with conventionallly grown foods you can buy at Walmart or whatever because that’s where the people who need help the most shop. Familiar foods, Vegetables. Beans. Rice. Lentils. Chicken. Nuts. Etc. not EVO, spaghetti squash, and “organic” chanterelles.

The upper middle class people who shop at Whole Foods don’t need a Jamie Oliver. And that’s what his target audience was/is.

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Then don’t buy the organic free range stuff. Jesus Christ, that’s super not the issue. Every single chef promotes organic and free range because it tastes better, but Jamie Oliver always disclaims that you can get regular stuff too.

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They saw Jamie Oliver as elitist for trying to get kids to not eat shit. Did you ever see his program? It was abysmal what they were serving British schoolchildren in schools.

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32 points

Make healthy food cheaper and tax junk food heavily. My dad recently moved to Ecuador and he’s eating like a king - fruit is like a 5th of the price there than it is where I am in the US.

Now I’m not expecting fruit at a 5th of the price lol, but making it reasonably priced at all would be a welcome change.

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We have to hold the big monopolistic food industries accountable. Look at Hershey’s, they have a ridiculous amount of lead in their chocolate and no one doing anything to push them.

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Literally everything is a fifth of the price in Ecuador as it is in the US.

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1 point

Remember what happened when NYC tried to ban sodas? Yeah, good times.

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19 points

Healthy school meals, making healthy food cheaper, taxing junk food, but I think the most helpful would be to heavily limit advertising of junk food, especially advertising to children.

I really feel like heavy restrictions on advertising would genuinely help with a range of different issues in the modern world.

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I love the advertising idea, the tax idea idk. Havent they tried taxing junk food and it’s never worked out? Either through general outrage or people circumventing it

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Yeah, the taxing one is quite controversial and I don’t know if I necessarily agree with it.

But, the sugar tax in the UK seems to have had a positive impact so far, from what I’ve seen it’s reduced childhood obesity and dental issues.

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Start by reversing some of the bullshit decisions Congress made. Like how they decided pizza was a vegetable.

https://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/

It’s a wonder Americans can actually get any good health advice when everything is a marketing gimmick or flat out lie. But when our own government is just rolling over while businesses legally poison the majority of the population is just insane to me. We don’t have to stop individuals making their own choices to fight back against some of this insanity. And proper information is a good starting point. No more deceptive advertising. No more saying your cheese when you’re not. No more “Wyngs” or other bullshit naming only designed to deceive.

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I think the FTC should crack down on deceptive advertising too.

No more saying your cheese when you’re not. No more “Wyngs” or other bullshit naming only designed to deceive.

But these are not the most pressing issues. Call your product whatever name you want, I just want to know exactly what’s in it.

I agree that calling something “cheese” when it’s “dehydrated oil shreds” or something is deceptive. Saw that today at Whole Foods. No, it’s not healthier; it just doesn’t have dairy.

Lack of dairy or gluten doesn’t make things healthier. Those ingredients aren’t replaced with air. They’re usually replaced with something that sounds disgusting. But food companies don’t want to put that on the package so they list what it doesn’t have.

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Adam Ruins Everything: ever wonder why cheese is everywhere? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYI9uUl1Ey4

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7 points

Regulate advertising. Ban ads targeting children.

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5 points

Michelle Obama’s policies were stupid. Replacing ice cream with low fat ice cream that has more sugar doesn’t help anyone lose weight.

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3 points

the my plate shenanigans was just replacing high calorie density foods with low density foods but obfuscated by using volume as a measurement.

they did nothing to address food deserts.

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Did what? What the hell are we debating here, rotating your plate of vegetables? I don’t get this meme.

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This meme is saying instead of using shaming as a tactic to help make healthier choices to actually do something and change policies to help everyone achieve a healthier diet. Obviously it won’t reach everyone it’s not perfect, but that’s how I understood it

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I’ve found that 9 out of 10 calls for “individual action” to solve a societal ail is only solvable by regulating large companies and industry. Most of the time, the companies themselves are the ones funding the campaign for individual action and awareness. ReMEMbEr tO ReCYcLE!

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It’s so expensive and time consuming to eat healthy, even more expensive if you want quality ingredients.

Meanwhile, junk food is quick, cheap, and tastes “better” because they just pack it full of sugar or have no regard for nutrition.

There’s really little incentive to eat healthy unless you’re making a conscious decision to be healthier.

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Beans and rice is cheap as hell, easy to make, and it’ll last for a week or two depending on storage options.

I’m really tired of the expensive angle on healthy eating. It literally takes 20 minutes of research to get around that issue.

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Yep it’s total bullshit. What people are really saying is they’re too lazy to prepare foods. Stir fry is cheap. Soup is cheap. Beans (refried, chili, black bean, etc.) & rice is cheap. All healthy.

Making lentil tacos tonight. Again, filthy cheap. Stupid simple. But tons of protein, complex carbs, fiber, vitamins, and minerals.

It gets much more efficient time-wise when you meal prep. Every improvement requires “conscious effort.” we’re just accustomed to bad habits because nobody taught us better.

Edit: I was a bit harsh on the laziness accusations. People are products of their environment generally and there are fair points regarding societal pressures. The body tends to take the path of least resistance and, well, this is the outcome.

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People are “lazy” because it’s takes 2-4 incomes to support a household instead of one. Everything is rushed for a reason. Convenience isn’t a luxury, it’s a necessity for many people, especially the hardest working.

The majority of healthy eating working class families are eating healthy because they have a retired grandmother or grandfather helping out cooking old school dishes etc. isolated small households with two working parents are going to feel compelled to get cheap and quick food otw home from work.

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I never liked this suggestion. Sure, dry beans and rice are cheap. When we tried to make beans, they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried. No matter what recipe we followed, they never tasted good. Rice is also cheap, especially when bought in bulk, but there’s only so many seasoning or sauce sauce combinations until I’m sick of eating the same thing. Even if it’s every other day, there’s no way I’m eating the same thing. We did that with overnight oats because they are cheap and easy to prepare ahead of time. We did it so much, it makes me gag now and I’ll never touch it again. On top of all that, I’m tired of cheap eating being reduced to the simplest possible foods imaginable and acting like people will eat them every or most days.

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they came out tasteless and gross no matter what we tried.

You tried wrong then, buy dried beans, leave them on water overnight, change the water, put them on the pressure cooker with new water for 20-30 minutes(the bean should easily be crushed between your palate and tongue if not, add more time)

open the lid, the water must barely cover the beans(remove or add water), low the fire and start adding chopped tomatoes and onions, SALT(salt is probably the most important ingredient, start with a little bit, add until the water tastes salty but edible) thyme and turmeric, same process as the salt, not too much just enough that the water tastes good, leave in a slow fire for 5-10 minutes(more if you want the beans extra soft),

bonus: extra taste secret, chop bacon and fry it with little oil, put it in with the oil, but don’t put much, max two oil spoons in, do it when you put the tomatoes and onions.

Serve with rice, or add more water and make a soup.

Oatmeal: boil the oatmeal in water with cinnamon until it’s cooked, then wait for cooling, put in the blender with milk, add fruits, and some drops of vanilla extract. Put in refrigerator, enjoy.

acting like people will eat them every or most days.

People do eat them everyday, rice+any grain+meat+salad+etc

You know how many tasteless and even gross things that came from animals and plants humans have learned to eat? Boil it, fry it, use every seasoning available until it tastes good.

Edit: add the salt before, when you put them on the pressure cooker, not with the tomatoes and onions, that way the taste gets inside the bean when its pressure cooked.

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So look for a recipe then. Chicken is cheap as hell. Pasta is cheap as hell. Rice is cheap as hell. Veggies are cheap as hell. Recipes will tell you how to cook it and make it taste good.

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There’s nothing more expensive and time consuming than being laid up in the hospital with cancer/heart disease/diabetes.

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Missing the point that, you can’t convince kids with that argument.

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Taking a carrot and eating it is faster, easier and more convenient that “fast” food. It can also be thrown around in a bag all day and still taste the same. Same with apples and…

It is really easy to simply make the decision to not eat shit. You don’t need to be an 8th degree vegan to be healthier.

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Okay, good luck trying to convince a child of that, or someone who’s in the junk food loop.

Just eating raw carrots also sounds like a miserable experience, you need to make healthy meals.

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Getting a child to brush their teeth (or do it for them) is also a constant effort. So what? Just let them rot? Raising children well is not easy, we know that.

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Oh yeah, instead of this full meal I’ll just eat a carrot.

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This is literally what I do. Of course, I am a bunny rabbit so maybe it’s different for people idk.

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It’s so easy you guys 💁

Also: Exercising more? That’s easy too-- Instead of not doing exercise, simply do exercise instead.

Saving money, same thing-- Simply don’t spend it all and you’re good.

Okay, we’re on fire with these life-changing insights-- What pervasive personal responsibility problem should we do next?

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The person argues that fast food is somehow cheaper. To me, it is far more expensive.

They say eating healthy is complicated. It is far easier.

I never said that switching to vegan is easy. But eating a carrot here and there, an apple, bla… is super easy and cheap.

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I absolutely detest carrots.

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Raw carrots are tough but I make a carrot apple shake with some cinnamon 'n shit and it’s delicious. Just Google. Super easy.

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“Yeah, we should keep shaming parents for childhood obesity! Now, let’s go on with more stimulus for High Fructose Corn Syrup…” 🙄

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You don’t have to eat the thing. Try eating the healthier thing.

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Lol said like someone who doesn’t understand kids.

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