Wait what
Panera has been selling some sort of lemonade with a ton of caffeine, and there have been a couple of news stories recently about it killing people.
It sounds like people aren’t aware that “charged lemonade” has caffeine at all when they order it. Or maybe they realize it but aren’t expecting 260-390mg.
Holy fuck where has this lemonade been my whole life???!?!?!
If you never see me post again, tell my mom I loved her!
“This lemonade has been actively killing people with caffeine overdose”
@rug_burn : man I gotta get me some of this stuff
For anyone concerned about their beverages. Following is a table of Recommended maximum daily intake of caffeine according to different age groups & categories: https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/food-nutrition/food-safety/food-additives/caffeine-foods.html
FDA’s recommendations: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/spilling-beans-how-much-caffeine-too-much
For measure: 8 oz (227 g) of Coffee has 80-100 mg of caffeine or 35-45 mg of Caffeine per 100 g of Coffee. (Average, numbers may vary accordingly.)
This drink only has like 40mg more caffeine than the same volume of coffee.
I think at least one case where a death occured they had like 3 or 4 of them
And known health issues that are negatively affected by stimulants.
It’s like trying to blame coke or Pepsi because a diabetic died after drinking almost a gallon of soda.
Keeping in mind that till recently it was common for the lemonade to be available where people could get their own refills. Also containing guarana, not as many people (including myself) would immediately recognize it as a simulant or have some kind of reference to their personal tolerance for intake.
"Brown, 46, had an unspecified chromosomal deficiency disorder, a developmental delay and a mild intellectual disability. He lived independently, frequently stopping at Panera after his shifts at a supermarket, the legal complaint says. Because he had high blood pressure, he did not consume energy drinks, it adds.
The lawsuit was filed on behalf of Brown’s mother, sister and brother less than two months after Panera was hit with a separate lawsuit regarding Sarah Katz, an Ivy League student with a heart condition who died in September 2022 after she drank a Charged Lemonade. That lawsuit, first reported by NBC News, called the beverage a “dangerous energy drink” and argued that Panera failed to appropriately warn consumers about its ingredients, which include the stimulant guarana extract.
Panera has advertised its Charged Lemonade as “Plant-based and Clean with as much caffeine as our Dark Roast coffee.” At 390 milligrams of caffeine, a large, 30-fluid-ounce Charged Lemonade has more caffeine in total than any size of Panera’s dark roast coffee, the legal complaints say. The large cup contains more than the caffeine content of standard cans of Red Bull and Monster energy drinks combined, plus the equivalent of nearly 30 teaspoons of sugar, the complaints say."
Fck. That seems like it’s way more than your typical energy drink that’s off the charts too.
I would love to know how that product development meeting went. "Hey people, we have this idea, think lemonade and coffee, but like 10 cups of coffee in a single lemonade.
It’s like being kicked in the chest by a horse. It could kill some people and open us up to litigation, but man are the sales going to be way up there too!"
Part of it also is that Panera didn’t clearly market it as caffeinated. The only indication that it was caffeinated was that it was marketed as “charged lemonade.” You could go to their website, and the website says it’s caffeinated, but the website only says that it contains the same amount of caffeine as a cup of coffee (which is markedly untrue).
It was only after the media started reporting on the deaths that Panera started saying that it was an energy drink. In other words, Panera is entirely at fault for those deaths.
It’s like one cup of coffee in a single lemonade. If you get the extra large, it’s like one extra large cup of coffee in a single extra large lemonade. The actual amount of caffeine is hardly the issue, just the fact that people are way less likely to understand how much caffeine they’re getting from lemonade compared to coffee.
The caffeine content was literally listed on the drink’s nametag taking up like 1/4 of the tag.
One of the guys who died drank 90oz of the stuff and had known blood pressure issues. Panera isn’t at fault here.
So what if the content was listed. That’s far from their only legal obligation
Calling it Lemonade might prove to be a problem because there’s an understood meaning for the word lemonade that doesn’t involve caffeine. They could have marketed it as lemon-flavored but calling it lemonade and putting it next to the regular lemonade could be construed as them trying to hide the caffeine content from consumers.
There was a coffee shop in Canada apparently selling an off-menu “nurse special” or something like that, was like 8 espresso shots or something ridiculous meant to be consumed over the course of a 12 hour shift. Caused some issues with people but seems like the article disappeared.
Tnx for sharing! I’ll just add an alternative web player that can 2x :)
This lemonade is fire
Except Panera’s not even in the same league when it comes to completely unnecessary deaths… religion/ church has millennia & millions up on Panera.
Edit: Panera also has far less sweaty-palmed, Father Feelgood kiddie-diddling accusations as well.
Hi there, just dropping in to say that caffeine is more dangerous than cannabis
flies away
Edit:
Anti-weed Puritans trying to find ways weed is actually harmful
The weed drug trade only exists because of the legal status of weed. Nixon is ultimately responsible for everyone killed because of it.
This might be the most Lemmybrained reductionist take I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen a lot
Depends if you factor in all the decisions that people have made using caffeine to keep them awake, that they wouldn’t have made if they had just gone back to bed.
But you won’t be counting them because it fucks your arguement, despite using it for weed.
Yeah pretty much, hard to compare them because they cause problems in different ways. Under 100 deaths per year for caffeine overdose, cannabis is associated with more fatalities but not in a causal way. Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement, cannabis has very measurable negative effects on cognition. Cannabis is, by no virtue of itself, associated with violence that comes with the black market.
Caffeine isn’t a workplace safety issue and doesn’t harm judgement
Funny enough my old workplace had to start going in and taking the coffee maker around 11am because too many people were overdoing their coffee and ending up jittery and anxiety ridden in the short term (making mistakes) and then exhausted to the point of almost falling asleep near the end of work (more mistakes)
Meanwhile my high ass was on a constant 7 speed the entire day (this was in an office so the worst I could do would have been to pay someone the wrong amount of money, which never happened)
Though tbh neither is realistically that bad for you unless you’re going overboard, which is kinda the case for most things in life
Why don’t they have Wi-Fi in Church?
!They don’t want to compete with an invisible power that actually does something!<
