The data found about 68 per cent of car shoppers in 2022 who did not own an EV showed an intent to purchase one, but that dropped to 56 per cent this year.

72 points

Because they cost an arm and a dick. I can’t afford a $40k car even if it’s cheaper per km to operate.

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10 points

Fuck me, I can’t even afford 10k. Regardless of cost per km

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41 points

Make some dashboards that aren’t a touchscreen cluster fuck

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15 points

Fucken’ this! Why does every new car have to have a media tablet on it, EV or not? Give me a cheap screen as the backup camera and don’t make me put my fingers on it while driving, and give me potentiometer controls for everything else!

Give me an EV car that makes me feel just a little better than being out in the cold for cheap and I’m sold.

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If they made a little EV pickup with a 2 seater cab, 6ft bed, basic backup camera and a 200 mile range for 20k, I’d buy one tomorrow.

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6 points

This, an electric Ranger is 10x more useful than a crew cab Ram with a 4 foot box, super nova headlights and a 12L V8 un-tuned diesel.

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2 points

There was a rumor GM is making the LUV truck but electric. I’m not a bowtie person anymore but I would have a downpayment on one in a heartbeat.

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7 points

There are inexpensive EVs…BYD makes some decent low cost EVs. They’re already in use as taxis in Montreal and IKEA delivery in Vancouver. The consumer versions are apparently coming in Canada… Just not yet. They are avail in Australia already and in Europe too.

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3 points

FYI, the full-electric IKEA delivery trucks are in Montreal as well.

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5 points

It’s because it’s the easiest way for car manufacturers to harvest and sell your data to third parties.

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1 point

Fucken’ this! Why does every new car have to have a media tablet on it, EV or not?

Because it’s cheaper. They only have to run one wire, one time, to one device, instead of having a myriad of wires and control boards.

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38 points

They. Are. Too. Expensive.

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I will never own a gas car again because gas cars are simply inferior technology. I’ve put 170,000km on my EV over the last 5 years, and they’ve been more convenient and less expensive kms than even the cheapest gas cars I’ve owned. The only maintenance has been rotating the tires and the cabinet air filter.

When I wake up in the morning, the car has more mileage charged in it than I’ll use in the day, which includes my 100km+ round trip commute. When I drive it, the instant torque blows by most other vehicles on the road. I live in a rural area, it snows, it freezes, it doesn’t get plowed right away, the car doesnt care. It always starts. I make half a dozen 1000km round trips a year in it, doesn’t matter the weather, sunny or cold. I take 2 kids, my wife and all our gear in it. Did I mention they do sports, we have equipment and bikes and all that stuff.

The darn thing does everything the skeptics say it won’t do and it’s a shame all the misinformation I see, almost daily, about EVs.

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11 points

What vehicle and can I afford it?

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8 points

Totally. The inconvenience ( and inconvenient timing ) of having to fuel up is intolerable after being exposed to electric.

My wife drives an EV and I drive a gas guzzler. So jealous. It is going to change the second I can afford it.

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5 points

170k in 5 years. Fuck me. I’d take me 15 years to drive that much for my car and 9-10 years for my truck.

I believe driving any vehicle less is better than buying an EV and putting enough miles on it to offset the CO2 from making the battery.

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3 points

You’re right. But it is a factor of how much you drive. If you’re really down to ~10km/yr then you’re not the problem. Most of America, however, drives about 30km/yr. That kind of mileage adds up quickly with poor inefficient gigantobeast 4x4 dickreplacer500 trucks that are primarily used for grocery getters and work commuters. So EVs have their place - especially in that world.

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I don’t get why people shit on trucks like you’re doing because they’re not as bad as everyone thinks. Sure, those roll coal like fucking morons are an issue but they’re not the majority of trucks. Most are like mine, stock and as fuel efficient as can be from the factory. Sportscars are far worse but no one and I mean no one bitches about them cause they’re cool I guess.

My buddy got into a wreck with his F150 and got an Infinity G35 or something as replacement. Went from a large truck with a V8 to a smaller car with a V6 and the Ford 150 was better on fuel and didn’t require premium so we were both shocked.

It’s the combination of driving a lot plus having a less efficient vehicle that’s the issue but we’re only focusing on half the issue, the driving part.

It’d rather see people drive less and take public transit more than drive EV’s.

One guy I talked to drives 3 hours a day and bitches at the government not doing anything… meanwhile, what has HE done to improve anything? The answer was nothing.

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5 points

I am with you! I first dipped my toe into the EV pool in 2020 when gas was at a modern era low, so EVs weren’t exactly flying off dealer lots. I only drove my ICE to keep the gas from going bad. Ended up selling the ICE and buying a second EV with a bigger battery and longer range. I’ve taken it on four road trips since March, and people don’t know what to think when I tell them I pay less for a full charge than most people do a single gallon of gas.

I think the best way to shift the apprehension is that home charging is the future, and you really only need to worry about infrastructure when you are going out of town. It’s a lot easier to put chargers on lampposts than it is to put gas stations every few miles, but oil lobbyists are making sure everyone is absolutely terrified of electrification.

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1 point

I don’t have a parking spot at home, but my office installed four car chargers, and there were already 120V sockets in every second parking stall. Unlimited charging is included in the parking fee, and they don’t care if you plug into the 120V socket. I’ve left my car there when I was on vacation, and not a peep from them.

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2 points

What do you have?

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18 points

Yeah well I don’t want a big ass SUV that costs a whole arm.

I want a reasonably priced Honda E. A Fiat electric. A VW e-Golf.

But most of all, I want better public transportation.

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3 points

I had a Fiat 124 Spider a couple years ago that I absolutely loved. Bring that mother fucker back as electric and I’m buying day one.

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1 point

The first 124s are so good looking.

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1 point

I mean, I do want a somewhat decent sized EV but not one that costs an arm. I mostly want a couple hundred kms of range without it costing an arm. I go on 200-300km trips almost on a weekly basis in the summer.

Also I’m still not sure how they think people will charge their vehicles if they live in apartments and townhomes or basement suites where they park on the street overnight.

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Where I live there are many public charging stations. But probably not enough to match the demand if everybody switched to electric cars overnight.

There are new types of solid state batteries coming soon that will allow super fast charging within a few minutes and extended range beyond what current batteries can do. Let’s hope it arrives soon.

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2 points

The faster the charger, the more powerful of a charging station you need, and the more expensive they are. No matter how fast your car is capable of charging, it’ll be limited by the charging station so the speed itself won’t change.

On the other hand, solid state batteries are supposed to have quite the increase in charge density so there’s the hope that they can be a lot cheaper since you don’t need as big of a battery.

On the other other hand, isn’t the car market slowing down as a whole? Sales seems to have slowed dramatically these last few years as people are relying on other ways to get around more and more, so rather than replacing cars with EVs, it’s more like cars are just plain disappearing, even it’s only at the rate of partial replacement levels.

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probably not enough to match the demand if everybody switched to electric cars overnight.

The same way that McDonalds wouldn’t be able to cope if the Public suddenly discovered Mig Mac Sauce can prevent cancer?

It’s okay to plan capacity a little less aggressively and then come up with demand, and not coping with a bizarre surge is almost okay.

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