• ISO 8601 is paywalled
  • RFC allows a space instead of a T (e.g. 2020-12-09 16:09:…) which is nicer to read.
29 points

Yeah I like a girl who is firm on her choice of date time format…😂😂😂😂

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I personally have a list of 14 RFCs I won’t compromise on when it’s a first date

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14 points

Do you care to share them?

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Please be serious and give me that list! Please be real!

Edit: guys, if they don’t answer, they might just missed the question. They might be real. BELIEVE!!!

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11 points

Linux sex tips approved

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108 points

A space is more problematic than a T tho

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58 points

Skill issue

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43 points

For a skilled pro like you I suggest using epoch time for everything

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4 points

Cassandra uses epoch milliseconds for timestamping snapshots. This means that each node will have a different name for the same snapshot. Trivially solved with truncating the timestamp with * wildcard, but just… why?

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30 points

Any other day I’d see this get laughs, but I guess people are bitchier this time of day.

I’d write down the ISO timecode I’m talking about, but I can’t afford it.

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You’ve just become the nemesis of the entire unix-like userbase for praising the space.

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What’s the issue with the space?

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On the command line, space is what separates each argument. If a path contains a space, you either have to quote the entire path, or use an escape character (e.g. the \ character in most shells, the backtick in Powershell because Microsoft is weird, or the character’s hexadecimal value), otherwise the path will be passed to the command as separate arguments. For example, cat hello world.txt would try to print the files hello and world.txt.

It is a good practice to minimize the character set used by filenames, and best to only use English alphanumeric characters and certain symbols like -, _, and .. Non-printable characters (like the lower half of ASCII), weird diacritics (like ő or ű), ligatures, or any characters that could be misinterpreted by a program should be avoided.

This is why byte-safe encodings, like base64 or percent-encoding, are important. Transmitting data directly as text runs the risk of mangling the characters because some program misinterpreted them.

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but what does the command line matter for dates? sure every once in a while you’ll have to pass a date as an argument on the command line but I think usually that kind of data is handled by APIs without human intervention, so once these are set up properly, I don’t see the problem

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4 points

I’m not exactly fond of the space either, but man, the T is noisy. They could’ve gone with an underscore or something, so it actually looks like two different sections.

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Top post of the hour is about an RFC from >20 years ago.

This is worse than the Linux stuff.

Y’all a bunch of nerds

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99 points

You’re not wrong

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50 points

Room for one more

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21 points

One of us, one of us, one of us

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30 points

Being a nerd is fun.

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10 points

Thanks /u/OsrsNeedsF2P!

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3 points

I’m a Linux nerd and even I don’t get this 😭

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57 points

allows a space instead of a T

That’s a bug not a feature

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It’s really a skill issue if replacing T by [T ] in your regexp is hard

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12 points

This is the most junior developer comment I’ve seen in a while.

Nobody that’s competent thinks that’s shit is hard. That’s not the point.

The point is, it makes it easy to make mistakes. Somebody might see all of one type of strings, assume that’s the format, and forget to enclose the thing in quotes, causing mysterious bugs years later when a differently created date filters into the system. You might have a regex error, you might split incorrectly, you might make a query that works the wrong way and gives an incorrect aggregate, and none of that is due to lack of skill. It’s due to not knowing it’s the rfc standard, not the iso. It could be due to not even realizing the rfc allows for that or is different.

Software engineering in practice is not about making sure there is at least some way for people to use your library/standard/pattern. It’s about making sure the way to do it that’s most intuitive/obvious is also foolproof, easy, and efficient. Adding the space makes debugging harder and adds footguns which is exactly what good software engineers want to stay away from. Otherwise we’d all be writing in assembly. But since you aren’t, maybe you are the one with a skill issue. Either that or you really misunderstand this field.

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4 points

allows, not requires. It basically means you can use space instead of T when showing it to end users and any technical person can just use T

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Development wise, It’d be better if it’s required not allowed. Best case scenario, it’s just another redundant if statement.

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The amount of things allowed by ISO 8601 is even more than what’s allowed by RFC 3339, if you take the time to look at https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

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