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We need a separate planet for these people

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Even better is when they destroy a bunch of virgin land to make a course when courses are already overbuilt in the area, then close it.

I lived in a city that had a mayor who was elected to a few terms and was going on 10-11 years in office. An out-of-state developer wanted to turn 400 acres of old growth forest by Lake Superior into a golf course, spending about 25 million. For some reason he made this basically the only thing he tried to get to happen in his last 2 years in office. This was also at a time when a lot of courses were struggling or closing because they had built too many in the early 2000s.

Many people were opposed to it but the usual sort of people thought it was great because ‘wow someone is spending money’. One fairly dim guy I knew who worked in construction said “YEAH. Do you know how many jobs that will make??”. The problem is they were going to hire a bunch of people to build it, which would take about 6 months, and then the permanent positions at the course were going to be like 6 people. Finally, they didn’t do it, the mayor left office, and basically nobody ever talked about it again.

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had a mayor who was elected to a few terms and was going on 10-11 years in office. An out-of-state developer wanted to turn 400 acres of old growth forest by Lake Superior into a golf course, spending about 25 million. For some reason he made this basically the only thing he tried to get to happen in his last 2 years in office. This was also at a time when a lot of courses were struggling or closing because they had built too many in the early 2000s.

Many people were opposed to it but the usual sort of people thought it was great because ‘wow someone is spending money’. One fairly dim guy I knew who worked in construction said “YEAH. Do you know how many jobs that will make??”. The problem is they were going to hire a bunch of people to build it, which would take about 6 months, and then the permanent positions at the course were going to be like 6 people. Finally, they didn’t do it, the mayor left office, and basi

Thanks for putting that last line in there. I was getting progressively more irate.

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Ha, yeah, I guess my intro made it sound like it went through and then was closed. I was so happy when it finally didn’t happen and the obviously corrupt politician was gone.

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Any decision made to create or preserve jobs is inherently wasteful. You’re spending money to avoid losing an economic output that the market has decided no longer needs to exist.

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It’s also opportunity cost. Literally anything else could also create jobs. How many jobs would building houses create? Solar or wind farm? A 24/7 orgy playground?

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Capitalist economics is more complicated than that, though, since there are artificial boom-and-bust cycles. People do deserve employment.

The people really pushing the project were the developers, a few people who stood to make an outiszed portion of the money, and the apparently corrupt mayor who I’m sure was planning on lining his own pocket somehow.

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People can be employed in fields where they’re needed. You wouldn’t argue about maintaining coal mining jobs, would you? I’m all for funding a “coal to clean energy” apprenticeship/certification program or something, but refusing to adopt fridges so the milkman doesn’t have to find a new job is a sure fire way to stifle progress and waste taxpayer money on subsidies.

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I hate golf for reasons above, but I recently tried Top Golf, and if there is any sustainable future for the sport, that’s it.

A single fairway can serve ~100 tees with probably 500 people playing. And some of the games are super accessible to people of lower skill levels. We played a round of Angry Birds at a work party where the virtual targets were only maybe 25-30 yards away. Super fun.

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I’ll second this. I hate "normal "golf but Top Golf is pretty fun. I like being able to get food and drinks too. It is quite pricey though so I don’t go very often (unless someone else is paying, lol). The first time I tried it was a vendor-sponsored event and I was like “huh, that’s kinda fun actually.”

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We played a round of Angry Birds at a work party where the virtual targets were only maybe 25-30 yards away. Super fun.

Ok, that does sound fun.

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Yeah, they have a big screen that maps a 3D Angry Birds piggie tower over the fairway, and the birds follow the path of your ball. It really is an impressive 1:1 mapping.

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I just went to their website and saw a video, it’s missing the putting right? That’s also a fun part of the experience along with the approach.

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Yeah, but there’s mini golf across town for that.

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You got me reading about it. It sounds pretty cool. Like a cross between a driving range and bowling and video gaming. I would totally suck at it, but I could see how that would be fun.

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Not a fan of the proper game but I do enjoy the driving range. I know some people jokingly say ‘just play minigolf’ but that’s missing the ‘punt a tiny thing really fucking far’ part.

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… but that’s missing the ‘punt a tiny thing really fucking far’ part.

I don’t get the thrill… I really don’t… it’s not that it’s impossible, but why do it 🤔.

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For me there’s a certain amount of stress relief when I feel good contact with the ball. It can also be fun to try to be accurate the same as with other games like darts.

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OK, well explained, I think I get it 👍.

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Heaven forbid someone enjoy something you don’t like.

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That’s not what they said.

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It’s not that I don’t like it, I just don’t get the thrill.

Maybe I’m too practical of a person, most things for me are a means to an end.

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"I’ve got just the place for low-cost housing. I have solved this problem. I know where we can build housing for the homeless: golf courses! It’s perfect! Just what we need. Plenty of good land, in nice neighborhoods, land that is currently being wasted on a meaningless, mindless activity engaged in primarily by white, well-to-do male businessmen who use the game to get together to make deals to carve this country up a little finer amongst themselves.

I am getting tired, really getting tired, of these golfing cocksuckers in their green pants, and their yellow pants, and their orange pants, and their precious little hats and their cute little golf carts! It is time to reclaim the golf courses from the wealthy and turn them over to the homeless! Golfing is a arrogant, elitist game which takes up entirely too much room in this country. Too much room’ in this country! It is an arrogant game on its very design alone, just the design of the game speaks of arrogance.

Think of how big a golf course is - the ball is that fucking big! What do these pin-headed pricks need with all that land?! There are over seventeen thousand golf courses in America, they average over one hundred and fifty acres a piece - that’s three million plus acres, four thousand, eight hundred and twenty square miles - you could build two Rhode Islands and a Delaware for the homeless on the land currently being wasted on this meaningless, mindless, arrogant, elitist, racist, there’s another thing; the only blacks you’ll find at country clubs are carrying trays.

And a boring game. A boring game for boring people. You ever watch golf on television? It’s like watching flies fuck! And a mindless game, mindless. Think of the intellect it must take, to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then, walking after it! And then, hitting it again! I say pick it up asshole, you’re lucky you found the fucking thing! Put it in your pocket and go home, you’re a winner! You’ve found it! No chance of that happening. Dork-o in the plaid knickers is going to hit it again and walk some more. Let these rich cocksuckers play miniature golf! Let them fuck with a windmill for an hour and a half or so! See if there’s any real skill among these people.

Now I know there are some people who play golf who don’t consider themselves rich. FUCK 'EM! And shame on them for engaging in an arrogant, elitist passtime."

-George Carlin

https://youtu.be/Z4w7H48tBS8?si=NboUfVzXMBGJD0C4

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I came here to quote George Carlin but you beat me to it 🤣

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I’d love to hear his addendum about Trump being a big golfer. And a golf cheat. We really need George Carlin today.

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He would love to muse about these times as he did so well, but he abandoned hope for humanity getting it’s head out of its ass decades before he died. Can’t say as I blame him, he was right about our nature. A person is great. People clumping up in groups in groups end in blood, cruelty, and tears on a long enough timeline.

I would take solace in those musings as well though.

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Cheating at golf is one of the single dumbest activities I can think of.

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