125 points

Stranger on the internet: Let me tell you why you are wrong to enjoy this thing and should feel terrible for having the gall to even try.

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Also, you cheaped out on buying that entry-level Hobbything 1000. You need to at least buy the expensive 3000 model to enjoy anything.

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Yeah 3000 if you’re an idiot, for the price of the 3000 you’d be an idiot not to get the 3000m-ti, you won’t ever use the features but you’d be an idiot not to have them.

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I used to always buy a K series chipset even though I never used the iGPU. It’s literally like a 50-70 dollar savings depending on the chipset going from K to KF. I figured I’d rather have it for troubleshooting and not need it, rather than need it and not have it - but if you’re using the iGPU chances are your dGPU is fucked in some capacity, so it’s really pointless when you’re trying to troubleshoot a graphics card problem.

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There genuinely are cheap versions of stuff (like the Amazon basics hand plane) that suck so much they’ll ruin the fun in something. But if you pick anything with a decent name in most hobbies, you’ll be okay.

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this is why I say that “ti” stands for “totally ignorant” please don’t listen to them op, if you haven’t trained up on models 300 to 2300 variants m-nl to qq-pp then you’re probably just going to hurt yourself and your hobbythingcraft

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sorry but this is wrong you need to EARN the 3000 I’ve been a fan of Hobbything since I was 8 and even had a Hobbything themed wedding and even I wouldn’t DREAM of using the 1000 until I’d totally mastered Aspect 1, 2, and 3.

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PSP-1000 > PSP-3000 and I will die on this hill.

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That one is just plain truth though. I’ve got a few hobbies like photography, watchmaking, gaming, knives… The cheapest options are never good.

You should always buy more than you think you need at that time. Because if you do grow in that hobby, you won’t be limited right out of the gate.

You just wouldn’t enjoy playing the cheapest guitar, painting with the cheapest paints or cursing the cheapest woodworking tools.

I’ve always bought better stuff than I needed and have never regretted doing so.

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As a counter example, I bought a $100 camera from a pharmacy when I was 15 that took low to mid quality photos and I was so happy with it. I learned about focus, bokeh, framing, etc despite having like 6 preset settings, and that got me into photography. Later I bought a low end DSLR and took 1000 pictures a day during the summer.

For wood carving a $60 set of knives was enough to get me into the hobby, now I get to spend too much money on stuff.

Cheap options can be very helpful to find out if you like something.

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You just wouldn’t enjoy playing the cheapest guitar

How do you know?

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Because I take on a new hobby like every five years, and sometimes give up before then, I generally recommend for people like me that you start out with the cheapest possible option and work your way up from there.

But my biggest hobbies are art, writing, fancy writing, preserves, baking, and game dev, so they don’t rely require much in the form of materials

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I do hate that whenever I mention I liked an older show I get “oooh, you know about the producer/lead actor/writer right?” And then I find out something awful and depressing.

How was everyone in show business so fucking terrible? Did Satan require a cosigner on any new media produced or something, like what the hell?

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14 points

Just humans being themselves. Power consolidates corruption.

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That’s a good reason to be anarchists. Don’t put any person in power - problem solved.

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8 points

As a vinyl collector, it really feels impossible to completely avoid problematic older bands. So many of them pulled heinous shit, and often the bigger they were, the more opportunities they had to indulge their worst impulses. But how can we study history without acknowledging our ancestors accomplishments and failures?

I figure if they are dead, they can’t hurt anybody anymore, and neither can they benefit. Same goes for buying used.

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I just accept that myself and everyone likes things that are shit and that’s okay. Criticizing and insulting media for being shit is also fun, but that doesn’t mean anything about the person who enjoys watching it because we all have shit we enjoy.

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Yeah, I love the messages and philosophy of Star Trek, but Rick Berman the guy who produced a whole generation of shows was allegedly piece of shit.

It doesn’t make Jean Luc Picard anything bad character, it just makes Rick Bernan a piece of shit.

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Buddy, that’s kind of the good side of fandom. The bad side is all the people telling you you’re a stupid piece of shit if you like X character/plot/episode/whatever. Also, the ones writing the really fucked up fanfic that makes you say, “um what the hell happened to you?”

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Those are exactly the ones they’re talking about, except they said fan art instead.

Really fucked up fan art …

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4 points

Wait, what’s wrong with that?

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Ah, the “straight relationships are illegal” fandoms…

“Quick! The showrunners just introduced an opposite sex couple immediately after three same sex ones! We have to make one character bi and the other pan!”

“Oh my gosh! The mean-girl character just started sucking up to a kid she used to be friends with who has since become her social superior in the most transparent power grab of all time! It must mean she had a lesbian crush the entire time!”

siiiiiiiigh

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Why is it though that queer relationships seem somehow watchable/readable, but straight relationships are just not interesting?

Obviously this will not be a universal experience. But I’m straight BTW, love the opposite gender, just find those plots almost universally dull.

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Queerbaiting is absolutrly a thing, and worth being annoyed at. If a show constantly hints that two same-sex people are gay for each other, then never actually follows through, that’s annoying.

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6 points

Objection stranger, you are very wrong and have fundamental issues! You’ll never get better.

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Also, let me introduce the fan meta which will inevitably ruin the original artistic vision, by popular demand.

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Also, I’m going to call right now the entire plot of the second season, and if it doesn’t aline with what I think should happen, then the show is garbage and the writing is bAd.

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You’re not just wrong for thinking something different about a consumer habit I have, you’re a morally bad person for it too.

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On Reddit I just read without logging in. It was nice. I’m trying to help build communities on Lemmy, so I’m posting and commenting.

Since doing that, I’ve been told I’m enjoying my hobby wrong, that my friends enjoy their hobby wrong, the links I researched for a comment thread are wrong (without references to correct info), and that I’m probably wrong about how I want to live.

I know I should have thicker skin, but the slow drip of unfriendliness is alienating.

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I wanted to just upvote this and move on, but I feel like that would be a disservice to you because I feel the same way about commenting.

I would say to just ignore the negative comments and continue to post. good people should not tear each other down like you describe. you never truly know who is replying to you, it could be a kid or someone that has some issues that need to be addressed.

I understand its much easier said than done, but training yourself to have thicker skin is like a muscle, just gotta keep going out there and train it lol. good luck!

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Thanks. I’ve been blocking unfriendly posters. That’s working pretty well.

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You’re not blocking them correctly then, because you’re doing your hobby wrong. /s

PS: Good people don’t criticize others like you’re describing. You’re doing the right thing by shrinking their reach into a list of blocked users.

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13 points

Have you had positive experiences too, or are they primarily negative?

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I’ve had positive experiences, mostly in the shit-posting and meme communities.

Maybe it’s just me, but the negative experiences are way more memorable than the positive ones.

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Yeah, I definitely feel that way. Positive experiences just feel ambient, and negative experiences feel like distinct events.

Still, I have the sense that Lemmy is mostly positive, even though there are jerks. I have alot of comments with, like… 7 upvotes and 1 downvote, and of course the downvote sticks out in my mind… But then again, way more people were supportive than negative, and that’s kinda cool.

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They always are.

People need to adhere to “if you have nothing nice to say, it’s better to say nothing at all” if we want Lenny to succeed.

I wish I was better at my hobbies (I plan to invest more in them next year) so I could submit more content and help get communities rolling. I see you have posted a fair few things which I appreciate.

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7 points

That’s just how “real” fans are.

There’s nothing real about them though, except their malice.

I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck, but I’ve stopped trying to tell people how to enjoy their media. The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.

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The world is already a miserable enough place without trying to make people feel bad about their content watching habits.

Exactly this.

I am the kind of guy who will make fun of you for watching and enjoying the first few seasons of Disco and Picard because I think they suck

If someone can be friendly while they’re joking around like that, I’m all for it. But it’s hard to get that subtlety into a comment.

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There’s kind of two modes with that. If you’re in a bad mood it’s easy to just become a bulldozer of anger and malice and just shit on every single aspect of the first seasons. Otherwise, it’s just a discussion where we disagree on what things we enjoy.

I find it easier to have a simple discussion here on Lemmy. On reddit you’re about 50/50 going to encounter somebody angry and malicious, but here it’s probably more like 70/30 towards a good conversation.

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If you come to !Risa@startrek.website you can join us in lampooning then, which makes them much more fun to watch.

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Risa is a great community. I don’t post there, but I enjoy the memes.

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At the same time, Picard mostly sucked… But it was good enough for me to watch through

I feel like half the problem is that not all of us are on the same page. If I say “I think this sucked”, I want to talk about it, and if anything I hope someone will recontextualize it for me and make it more enjoyable.

I want to hash it out, because anyone who does that in good faith sharpens their own opinion. Maybe I’m wrong and they convince me to give it a second chance, maybe I’m wrong and realize I only liked it for nostalgia. Or maybe we realize our opinions differ, and narrow down the reason why

I don’t think I’d like Picard aside from nostalgia…I don’t think it was fun or artistically valuable, but I didn’t stop watching. I don’t think it’s good-If you like it, I’m not going to say you’re wrong, but I will argue no one should watch it if they don’t love Patrick Stuart already. Not even TNG, the rest of the crew was pretty hollow cameos - his character was badly written, but I watched it through because it was more of his character

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Tell them to fuck off. This is the internet. Don’t let people do this to you.

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I think you’re using lemmy wrong if you’re encountering that much resistance. /s

But seriously what is this hobby that’s so dividing? Are you looking through telescopes backwards or something?

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3 points

It’s D&D. A game played with friends who have their own likes and dislikes. But sometimes they like the wrong thing.

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Haha is this the classic minmaxer vs storyteller divide? Or maybe the serious campaign is being ruined by murderhobos?

There’s got to be infinite ways to enjoy d&d and so infinite disagreements to be had.

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I have a motorcycle. It’s a Harley-Davidson. Immediately, everyone is picturing a large and unpleasant looking bearded man riding a huge, noisy, vibrating, chrome bedazzled air cooled motorcycle without a helmet from one bar to the next.

My harley makes about as much noise as a Toyota Camry. I wear full protective gear when riding it, including a bright and attention-getting helmet. It doesn’t get ridden to bars, because drinking interferes with my motorcycle addiction.

The large and unpleasant looking bearded man part is accurate, though.

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I never understood the " I’m so badass I’m going to ride without the only thing that can prevent my skull from cracking like an egg" I guess live fast die young, but in the event you don’t die the only way we will know where your mouth is, it will be following the feeding tube.

Anyways safe rides dude.

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I mean, some dudes won’t use environmentally friendly grocery bags because they’re afraid to appear “gay”. Some men’s masculinity is oh so fragile. Like a human skull in a motorcycle accident perhaps.

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5 points

Guys, is it gay to avoid filling your trash can with a bunch of plastic bags?

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7 points

It has been my long-standing belief that a motorcycle helmet can prevent an accident. I’ve had too many things hit my visor while riding. Imagine taking a june bug in the eye with nothing but a set of oakleys for protection.

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3 points

The bug in the eye is a classic, I just wanted to feel the air on my face.

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So we were only half correct.

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a-HA!!

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I bet you’re at least a little bit pleasant to some people lol

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My other half seems to think so.

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Easiest way to start hating your new hobby is visiting it’s subreddit.

It’s obvious for video games because you can assume anyone that wants to be active on a specific game sub is probably a try hard that talks about the meta, or max DPS builds, or other annoying stuff. But then you visit something like the carbon steel pan subreddit, or grilled cheese, and you’re continually assaulted with this idea that there are only specific pans and oils that are correct, or that your grilled cheese isn’t actually a grilled cheese because it was cooked too close to an open pack of salami.

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Video game communities suck, and it makes playing them worse.

You play an FPS and everyone uses the meta gun at the time, then it gets nerfed and they use the new meta gun. Same with RTS and any other multiplayer game. Somehow StarCraft 1 pulled out a perfect rock paper scissors balance, but nothing else really has that so meta is what people do.

And because everyone is so busy grinding and min maxing, that’s what the game developers design for now, and it sucks the fun out of games because you just grind hours to get some new items to have the best items in the game.

Occasionally game communities are good. The Chivalry 2 subreddit had a bot that would use GPT to answer questions and then on every post go on about how the polehammer is the best weapon in the game, which was so over the top it made fun of the whole meta idea. The Breath of the Wild communities doing crazy rube Goldberg machines are always fun. And I’ll never not enjoy the weird hellscapes people create in the Sims.

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then it gets nerfed and they use the new meta gun

OMG, this was what killed overwatch for me. I’m disabled and can’t play games that require fast paced precise and concise actions. So Symetra was my jam. I tried other characters like torbjorn but the all had the same problem. Some 13 yo genji prick would hop circles over my head while my health ticked away and I shot sporadically around at the sky before I inevitably die. But not Sym. All I had to do was backpedal and keep that grasshopper mf’er in my general view. And pop. Pulling him into a doorway with 6 kill lasers was the best feeling the in the world. But that enabled me to be useful to the rest of the team. I occasionally did good enough that I ranked in the top of the match, but I was almost never carried.

And then they nerfed sym because, “nOt EnOuGh PrO pLaYeRs PiCk HeR!!¡!!” No more walking shield. No more turret web. No more over shield for the team. No more wide lock on gun. They turned her into just another precision shooting player. She had a Halloween bag of tricks and they swapped it for a tooth brush.

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You play an FPS and everyone uses the meta gun at the time

This is why I miss arena shooters (Quake, Unreal Tournament, Halo, etc.) being in vogue. There are no loadouts, no inherent differences between players, you’re all equal, and any weapons, ammo, grenades, powerups, vehicles, whatever, must be picked up from the map itself. This map doesn’t have a lightning gun/rocket launcher/banshee? Well tough shit, you’re going to have to do without.

These are games where you must fight with whatever comes to hand, no matter how much you dislike it, and that leaves almost no space for a meta. The closest thing that can exist is a general consensus of “for this situation, these are the weapons you want to have, and these are the weapons you really do not want to be in this situation with”.

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Isn’t that largely just the case for competitive games?

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Pet communities are horrible for this

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Cute cat sneezes

Top comment: “This cat is gonna die Tomorrow from feline airborn disease, his left eye twitched 2.3ms longer than the norm which means…”

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I just want occasional cat photos to roll into my feed, not to hear the virtues of a raw diet versus how crappy the one my vet told me to use!

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6 points

Here is an actual thing that was sent to me

“If you don’t wash your guineas with unscented coconut oil once a week you don’t deserve to own them.” Like fuck off man

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Last time this happened to me was when I said I liked an experimental musician’s youtube channel cause he has a lot of content about his process etc. Got reamed in the comments by a salty user cause the musician once featured a product in a video made by a brand that it’s popular to hate, yet used by many musicians. One of the most reddit things ever.

The same subreddit heavily discouraged me, in classic reddit style, from getting a product once. I did anyway following my intuition. Then a year later it became the most recommended product for that purpose.

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Like I watched the Musical episode in Strange New Worlds, and really liked it. It was strange but fresh. I laughed out loud at the Klingon part. But then I got online and it was just hate. So stupid. And I’m a HUGE tng fan

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I enjoyed Cyberpunk at launch. Forgive me…

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I did too… Even with a handful of weird bugs, it was an awesome experience (on PC)

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6 points

I played it on ps5, crashes were very rare and the story/gameplay was great.

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7 points

So did I. I never understand what everyone was bitching about.

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Me too

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echo chamber or sth, probably
game was definitely less buggy then Skyrim, even with all official patches

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I waited. bought it later and thought it was a poor gta 5 clone. Same with rdr. guess I just don’t like that style of game. Loved witcher 3 though. shrug.

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Even when it crasehd every hour I had a blast, I learned how to tell if it was about to crash and I would save and rebbot

I’m playing it again and it looks great on v2.1

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It was a damn good game at launch, and it just got better over time. I defend it always since I had a blast, had very few and only minor bugs/issues, and got a ton of time out of it for the money.

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I think I liked it more on launch than I do now. I had all of like 5 bugs my first 3 times through the game before they started changing things.

  • A dude that pops into existence during the scene at Tom’s Diner and Gumby t-poses out a wall
  • a random T-posing baddie when I zoomed in my first sniper rifle
  • the painting exploit
  • the melee weapon exploit when doing the boxing matches
  • the slow-mo bunny hop speed exploit.

None of these negatively affected the game. In fact the last one was dope and I wish they didn’t fix that one at all.

Coming back recently because of 2.0 and I get:

  • Stuck in 1st person while driving, which sucks because most of the cars have impossibly tiny windshields and I literally can not fucking see where I am going.
  • AI cars in traffic that just explode like they were hit by invisible cars, throwing them around or cars falling from the sky, sometimes on me and killing me
  • UI freezing so that I’m basically stuck with the scan mode overlay while I’m no longer scanning which requires a full restart of the game to fix.
  • The new skill system has a skill that says it lets you reload and another skill to shoot while vaulting but neither seem to actually work.
  • Tons of script related issues that break sequences in the quest I am on, forcing a reload. Sometimes several minutes prior because it has to be before the trigger that broke the shit.

None of these are fun and they all impact the game negatively. :/

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I think this is fine and nothing to apologise about. But those that played it on the (then) current gen consoles had an awful time with it.

I understand the majority of players were on PC or newer gen consoles, but it irritates me if PC players argue it was fine because they didn’t see those issues. CDPR literally removed it from the PlayStation store and offered everyone refunds it was that bad!

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I actually liked No Man’s Sky at launch, but I didn’t watch any of the pre release stuff.

I heard people talking about it and picked up a copy on my way home from work on release day. It was fun got boring fairly quickly.

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Naw man, me too. Was it full of bugs on launch? Absolutely. Did it fall far short of the hype? Very. Was I having fun playing it? A blast, actually. I unapologetically love 2077 and feel like I got more than my money’s worth.

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I liked the emoji movie…

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no you didn’t

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I was 7 when it came out :p

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Its okay Alex, you’re safe here.

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