imagine being the dorks that got put next to hitler lmao

So what they have on this cover:

Jesus, a man who may or may not have even existed

Steve Jobs, a guy who did what exactly? Was a presenter for the iPhone?

Oprah, was a talkshow host.

What they don’t have:

The Red Army and the Allies, who saved the world from the Nazis

The essential workers who were forced to literally die or cripple themselves to work though covid and keep the world running.

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They literally have Hitler right there on the cover

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Hitler did change the world alright. Not for the better (quite the oppositie actually), but he did change it.

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I’ve seen this technicality before, but it always feels hollow to me.

Like yeah, hitler changed the world, but he was an opportunist at the right place at the right time when his style of rhetoric and politics appealed to a country going through the aftermath of a world war and the Great Depression.

He didn’t change the world because of something clever or intrinsically special about him. He wasn’t special at all. That’s what makes fascism so dangerous.

To describe him as a supernatural outlier of a person builds a myth that the things he did could only happen under the influence of a single charismatic person.

Putting him on the list and the cover gives him credit he doesn’t deserve.

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It is one thing to recognize him and it is another to honor a place for him on the fucking cover. I don’t know, I just very much don’t like it.

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Don’t be so dramatic, Hitler and Oprah are basically at the same level.

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Ikr, what a joke

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I’m an atheist, an anti-theist, and the first person to point out fabrications in the Bible (shout-out to all of Matthew’s testament on the resurrection), but there is absolutely no reason to believe Jesus wasn’t a historical figure

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Yeah it’s there’s broad consensus on the historicity of Jesus as a man who definitely existed

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I play obtuse just to piss off Evangelicals.

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I can’t fault you for that

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Mother Teresa did not change anything. She positioned herself in some of the most impoverished areas of the world and told dying people how great their suffering was for their souls.

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don’t forget all the anti-birth-control stuff! very cool!

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Worse even, she’d tell young girls to get many children.

This is one of the worse things religious morons do. It happens here in Ecuador too, I hate those priests soooo mucg they ruin lives when encouraging VERY young kids to have children…

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She also accepted money from and defended “Baby Doc” Duvalier and corrupt businessmen.

I think the Catholic Church just needed some kind of W after the allegations came out, and that’s why she was propped up. What I don’t understand is why in my non-Catholic country she was mentioned in school books as a great person.

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They put the guy who bathed his feet in the toilets at Atari and died trying to cure cancer with smoothies next to Einstein

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one of the tech guru’s go-to stress relievers during the early days of Apple was to head to the company toilets and soak his bare feet in the toilet water. In fact, the guy had a little bit of a hygiene problem — Isaacson also revealed how Jobs was put on the night shift while he worked at game-maker Atari because he rarely bathed and would walk around the office in his bare feet

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okay so what are the mechanics of this? is he… sitting on the floor and then putting his feet up and over the rim of the toilet bowl? is he standing in the toilet? did he bring a chair into a stall?

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maybe he’s sitting on the tank? idk but this sounds so disgusting. Maybe his cancer came from chronic Hep C from doing this or something.

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Oh, I misremembered and kind of mashed the two together. I thought that was an Atari thing.

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the fact that you said “next to” instead of “below” made me cackle like a hyena when I scrolled up and saw Jesus

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POCs who changed the word: fought racism and imperialism

White people who changed the world: got rich and / or were Hitler

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Is Oprah white now?

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Lincoln also isn’t Hitler you’re right

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I could see Oprah doing a genocide in another timeline. It wouldn’t be shocking if she somehow funded one in this one.

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Oprah but it’s Obama: AND YOU GET A BOMB! AND YOU GET A BOMB! LOOK UNDER YOUR SEAT - THERE’S A BOMB! EVERYBODY GETS A BOMB!

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Isn’t Oprah just a TV star what is the argument for how she (or the Beatles) changed the world?

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Oprah was unbelievably influential in promoting quack medicine and psychology which gave mainstream legitimacy to frauds like Dr Oz and Dr Phil and more. She has undoubtedly played a role in the collective damaging of the American psyche

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she did give everybody a car tho so

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33 points

Another sin, no one should get cars

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yeah i find it funny how making popular media is portrayed here as basically being the same as jesus

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Imaging sailing across the Atlantic to build a shitty town so you can practice your version of Oprahism away from the other Oprahites

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sometimes bourgeois media are accidentally based

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