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Chronic alcoholism, and their tinsel was filled with lead

the 1950s and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race

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If there is one thing I could bring back from that era, it would be the durability of their appliances and materials. Much better than this throwaway culture we have, where everything is made to last a couple years past warranty, then thrown out at the first sign of malfunction. Shit from the 1950’s was built to endure decades of regular use, and repairs were simple and cheap.

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so how come they’re so rare nowadays? I mean everyone had one back then, why aren’t the overwhelming majority of these appliances still with us? Survivorship bias, that’s why

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I’ve lived in at least 20 residences across 4 continents and only one of those was from the 1920s.

It still had an original stove.

That stove was the fucking best shit ever. It was amazing. I swear to God I have never been able to cook bacon so amazingly as on that stove top.

I don’t disagree that survivorship bias is a thing. And perhaps I had the best possible option of that era. I mean, yes with an induction top I can do great things. With an MSR dragonfly gas stove I can cook the camp a great breakfast anywhere in the world. I’ve cooked on wood fire stoves. I’ve cooked primitive fires in outback Australia and the himiliaya mountains… But there was something special about that 1920s stove that I’ve won’t ever forget.

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My dude, they said “1950’s”, and “decades”. They’re no longer around cause it’s been decades since the last one has been produced.

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I recently heard an interesting take on a podcast that prior to electronic calculators and especially computers, doing calculations was very tedious, time consuming, and not as precise for complex calculations. This resulted in things being over engineered to compensate.

Once it was easier to make calculations, you could easily figure out the minimum amount of resources needed to make a product last during the warranty period. With spreadsheets, you could have a complex view of all variables and tweak the materials to maximize profit, largely at the expense of durability.

This is I think one of many factors, including survivorship bias, why people feel like they don’t make em like they used to.

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I don’t know, their lamp seemed pretty fragile.

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Sounds Italian

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You mean you don’t like black face?

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Isn’t that more like the 1920s?

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The idea to decrease alcohol consumption is an incredibly recent development in human history.

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Which started long before the 1950s. The temperance movement in the US started in the first half of the 19th century.

So relatively recent yeah, but not really relevant in this comment thread.

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Did you know that human history includes historic events that happened in the second half of the 18th century? It’s true!

Some historic events didn’t even include Americans!

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Didn’t alcohol use actually go up during temperance? I swear I read some studies on that. Like that was the reason it failed – alcohol use not only increased, but the alcohol that was available became more dangerous, so temperance was reversed and regulations on how it was made and licensing were instated.

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6 points

You mean like Islam?

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You’re right, elimination is a decrease. Point taken.

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Probably because alcohol and automobiles don’t mix too well

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The lead made the tinsel taste better though.

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Sure was fun though!

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As long as you weren’t Black, Native, gay, trans, homeless, a woman, or any other marginalized group – then yeah, the 50s were grand

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They drink pretty much the whole movie. It was a game to drink along with them when my partner and I were younger.

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But they don’t though. They are only seen drinking alcohol at the end on Christmas Day. Literally, there’s only a few scenes that even feature the parents, and none of them until the end include alcohol consumption.

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Sounds like fun. I’ll try this next year.

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During Christmas.

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🎶 It’s Christmas morning somewhere 🎶

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Fragil’ee. Must be Italian!

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The knowledge that they were drunk the whole time puts the whole movie in a different context.

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I am pretty sure the wine was homemade and gifted to them from another family member? So they decided to drink it after opening it. Not that it changes anything, but at least there was some context as to why.

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That’s a level of detail definitely not announced in the movie. The only time the wine is referenced is when the dad says “the wine’s not bad, it’s not good either!”

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You know this wine’s not bad. It’s not good either.

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