104 points

Fake. Counting cards (in blackjack) isn’t a good way to make money. It involves large changes in your bet size that make it extremely obvious. If you’re bad at it, places will let you do it while you lose money. If you’re actually good at it (he’s not), they’ll kick you out. It’s an obvious thing that places don’t put up with if you’re winning.

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Op is counting 52 cards in a basement game, he’s found his calling, until he encounters a shoe

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39 points

Or worse.

For his sake, I hope he takes his winnings so far and walks.

Clowning on a bunch of underground gambling rings is a good way to end up on a lot of shitlists of a lot of less than scrupulous people.

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9 points

The good thing about underground gambling rings is that 2k is hardly an amount worth shitlisting about…

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1 point

I assume you aren’t talking of a literal shoe?

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11 points

A shoe is several decks shuffled together. Usually they’ll go though less then half the shoe before shuffling and starting over, making your counting much less effective.

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24 points

It’s really hard to do in casinos too. They often use something like six decks and shuffle well before they’re through it.

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It’s not impossible to count a standard 6 or 8 deck but with dealers moving at 90mph it’s fuckin hard

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9 points

It’s absolutely possible to make good money counting cards. There’s a great series by Steven Bridges on YouTube where he goes through the process of counting cards in action, in several different casinos in different states and countries, both alone and with team-play.

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Oh, it’s on youtube? Must be true then!

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1 point

Literally has videos on his channel of him card counting and winning big. Consistently.

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8 points

No it doesn’t involve abnormal shifts in betting. Only idiots would move from $5 directly to $100 per hand. Average gamblers start small and get excited too.

If you do it slowly, starting at the minimum and getting “excited” when the deck is rich in tens, no one will notice or care. Play $5 to $50 and order a drink.

The average card counter is a young single dude in a baseball cap drinking a water. Wear a fun outfit, get a free drink, and talk to the dealer. No one will notice.

And yes, you can count a shoe. You just need to find a dealer that deals about 70% of the cards.

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4 points

If you’re actually good at it (he’s not), they’ll kick you out.

I never understood why this isn’t allowed. Just seems like getting good at the game to me

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Just seems like getting good at the game to me

Because it isn’t sportsmanship that they’re interested in it’s getting all your cash. They don’t give a damn about the integrity of the game or anything like that.

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3 points

Card games basically don’t have integrity.

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17 points

Because the whole point of a casino is to take your money.

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15 points

I mean. Temporarily.

While the profits rolled in, so did the “heat” from the casinos, and many MIT Team members were identified and barred. These members were replaced by fresh players from MIT, Harvard, and other colleges and companies, and play continued. Eventually, investigators hired by casinos realized that many of those they had banned had addresses in or near Cambridge, and the connection to MIT and a formalized team became clear. The detectives obtained copies of recent MIT yearbooks and added photographs from it to their image database

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15 points

I’d argue that getting away with it for 20yrs means they were still pretty successful.

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Detectives

Lol if there’s one thing the police are needed for it’s protecting capital

Edit: looks like they were private dicks, carry on

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86 points

A friend’s poker party had blackjack? Sounds weird

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69 points

Almost as if this was made up.

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26 points

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

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Also the buy in was apparently $5 but the winnings are in euros

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He specifically said “bucks” which had me wondering if they even use that slang across the pond.

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4 points

Yes that’s what I was hinting at

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1 point

While it almost certainly made up. We would sometimes play black jack…

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14 points

There’s a sizable minority of male zoomers into gambling in some countries, tightly related to the proliferation of small casinos in working-class neighbourhoods through a historical period where typical socialization spaces have been getting dismantled. I met a guy whose friend group’s main activity for socialization was going to gambling and his life was pretty much a mess, roughly around the same as the guy from the green text.

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This started with grey-market online poker in the early 2000s. In my big lecture classes, there would always be a dozen or so people just playing online poker, and I knew lots of people who got so sucked into it they dropped out of school

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2 points

I guess this could be possible, but I’m just thinking how weird it be to host such event and be the house in blackjack because the house always has the advantage. It’s not really a group game like regular five card poker or hold’em would be

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3 points

Lol You’re overthinking it. People organizing such nights among friends are not officially hosting the event and are not always play as the house. The person who plays as the house is rotating

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1 point

Who gambles a house favoured game with pals

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86 points

I like how he went to a poker night and figured out he’s good at blackjack. Sounds like his friends wanted to gift him some money even though the idiot couldn’t even figure out what game they are playing.

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28 points

This is known as “The Chandler” method.

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8 points

I do love a game of cups!

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5 points

I see people latch onto that detail. I find it plausible that some guys having a “poker night” might play other card games in addition to poker. Play a few hands of 5 card draw, some 7 card stud, maybe a round of blackjack or two.

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2 points

Do people even call Euros, “bucks” or did he switch currency as well?

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75 points

If you’re going to be a “professional” gambler. You need to be a PROFESSIONAL.

That means ledgers, records, receipts, keeping track of travel expenses, meals… its easy to lie to yourself about how you’re really doing.

Also a lot of professional gamblers lose a grip on what a dollar is worth, because this week they are $60,000 up and just bought themselves a brand new car, and in 2 months they havent hit a decent win in weeks and are selling the car to make their rent.

Also, you cant put it on your resume. About the only place that might care if you’re a professional or semi professional gambler is a casino if you’re looking for a job. In that case the ledgers might be able to prove that you know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to gambling. But beyond that you arent really building to a career. So either git gud or have a backup plan.

Good luck OP.

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Why can’t you put it on your resume:

Self employed, semi-pro poker player

Managed ledger of winnings, generated X% average profit margin, completed in X tournaments, kept up with competitive strategies, etc.

Would be a decent resume for a lot of jobs, like she’s, some management roles, etc. Combined that with other expertise and it’s a good measure of being a self learner and being motivated,

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8 points

Where it says “19, bad grades, no job, fat”

Sure it might actually be an asset in some roles, but with no formal education to back it up it reads as “I’m a bad week from stealing from the till”

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4 points

A good resume entry for a management role generally involves managing people beneath you.

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Why would a professional gambler, a “career” track with no need for managing anyone but one’s self, want to be hamstrung by the reality and nuance of management? You know (I presume) how exhausting that is.

No, a smart (or even passably well written) professional gambler could present their legitimate skill set for jobs that make use of it.

They also, aside from hard skills (corroborated by good record keeping), would presumably develop or possess at least above average soft skills in the areas of communication, assessing client needs, and negotiating.

They would be terrific lenders, corporate salesmen, insurance investigators, the list goes on and on.

EDIT: Meant to reply one level up, sorry.

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If I saw poker player as someones last couple years of work experience I would toss that resume in the trash immediately. If they were any good at it they wouldn’t be looking for a job.

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just generally not a good person

Is fucking sending me. At least anon is in touch with themselves.

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