Just watch the TikToks, nobody cares
I get it to an extent for privacy reasons, but most of the people making that type of comment are just going “oh no, that’s what the kids are into so it’s Bad”. Personally I’m too apathetic about the privacy aspect to care too, bug companies are spying on us all and manipulating us all the time anyway and I just can’t be bothered to get worked up about one particular one
most of the people making that type of comment are just going “oh no, that’s what the kids are into so it’s Bad”.
I’ve seen almost none of that, so no idea where you’re getting that from. Most people are against it because either a) China b) it known to cause mental issues and decrease patience or c) spying. No one gives a fuck about what kids are into.
I care. Short form video is extremely addictive. It’s dangerous to open it up, if you watch a second video you just end up in a doomscroll trance
Fair, though to my mind that’s all social media, so I can’t get worked up about one particular one. The reason I’m glad I was pushed off reddit is because I’d end up in a doomscroll trance there too
There’s degrees to be sure though - ticktock is the absolute worst, because it has a lot of content and a good algorithm… Plus, short form video is the easiest to get lost in
I just ignore them because the videos are a mess of graphics and popups outside the app. It has literally made some videos unwatchable for me as they kept getting interrupted and breaking.
I was fine with memes over the past few years … sure they are a quick dopamine hit that make you laugh or think
But now when my friends send me tiktok videos … especially when someone has been watching these video streams for hours or days … they start sending out the most random, inane, mindless content … it’s the kind of material that keep a monkey occupied.
it’s the kind of material that keep a monkey occupied.
I think that’s kind of the point. There was an article a while back that said the CCP/Bytedance intentionally serve up braindead content to everywhere outside China, while promoting educational and uplifting content at home.
I have one 50 year old friend with very little tech know how and his kids set him up with a good smartphone. I saw his family about a year ago and his kids noted that their dad often sits up until about 2 or 3 in the morning at the kitchen table just scrolling through tiktok videos. He sent them to me about once a day until I had to block him and tell him directly to stop sending me this stuff. He’s since become ‘aware’ of his addiction and stops sending out videos as often as he did before. He still scrolls through thousands and thousands of videos a day.
It would all be funny if it wasn’t so frightening at the same time.
50 is still too young. Endless scrolling should only be for old people who literally can’t do anything. Kids need to do physically stimulating things like playing outside, adults need to do mentally stimulating things like playing video games. Old people don’t need to do anything, they can veg out to short form.
Legitimately, when I was quitting nicotine, I would scroll on my phone when I was getting withdrawal pangs, and it helped.
Nowadays I have to watch myself, or else I’ll potentially lose hours. I know exactly what addiction feels like: going without and satisfying what feels like a need - it feels right. And these apps are definitely addictive. I didn’t really notice until I tried to stop.
That’s such a gross misunderstanding of the separation between TikTok and China that it’s very possible purposeful misinformation.
China has no control whatsoever over TikTok, and in fact, there are US intelligence officers on the board for the American company. If anyone is “intentionally serving up braindead content…” it’s the US company, who is under strict control and observation by US intelligence agencies.
Why are you lying? Every Chinese company is under the CCP’s boot, as made evident by the one time Tencent tried to fight it
I’ve had no trouble curating my feed to mostly professionals, psychologists and pet behaviorists. Occasional cute animal videos
that sounds way too bizarre to believe without seeing a source. and i know there’s gonna be people replying saying it’s not that bizarre, because China, but really…?
Absolutely reasonable thing to ask.
Grep for “Companies like TikTok” to find the relevant portion.
The guy talking isn’t exactly a scientist and this ain’t a rigourous peer-reviewed study, but it does seem like he knows at least a little about what he’s talking about. Take it with a grain of salt.
This is my wife in a nutshell after Reddit died.
What if there were a service to convert ticktock videos into Lemmy posts? Would that be a good thing?
No, I don’t want to see that brainwashing garbage. It’s curated to wreck the brains and society of Western democracies.
Everyone should have heard about this by now, but China’s version of TikTok is vastly different than ours. It is limited to mostly educational content and has built-in screen time limits. They know what is bad about our version of it, and it’s on purpose.
This was verified by a number of independent researchers. 60 Minutes even did a full segment on it.
I’m not asking if any platform is better than Lemmy.
I’m asking if it would be good to facilitate the ability to post the user generated content from a terrible platform to Lemmy.
No. That’d be like having your family owned restaurant cook Mr Beast burgers.
You can go ahead and point out where I mentioned Lemmy in my prior comment. But I will address that now, and of course TikTok is not better than Lemmy.
But what my prior comment was about is that the content from TikTok is unhealthy for the mind. Therefore Lemmy should not host it at all.
I already downvote the porn posts that are just dancing hoes from TikTok. Or anything with that watermark on it. Everyone who cares about mental health and reducing propaganda and misinformation should join me in doing so.
I’m not in TikTok or anything but isn’t that something China would of course do? Like they are trying to push their app to a country that loves FREEDOM. Why would they limit content based on their controls in place in their country?
