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There’s a big difference in body image set by men for women and body image set for men by men

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Every study shows that the vast majority of men are perfectly fine with a very wide range of women’s bodies.

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Can you link one of them you consider credible? I’ve never heard of that, tbh.

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Do you look outside and see men with women? Are those women all models? Or do they have a wide range of normal bodies?

You don’t need a study to prove what you can see with your eyes.

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They said every study, so just find one, obviously. /s

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Has anyone ever said the first statement up there in the top-left? I wouldn’t doubt there’s some fringe group that would, but I also think they would be in the vast minority and you’d need to specifically go looking to find it. I dislike this kind of meme for that reason, it’s sowing a divide that doesn’t need to exist.

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I have heard it regularly for a few decades now in person and media. When the dad bod picked up in popularity it was used as an example of how “men don’t have to follow beauty standards” while ignoring all of the other expectations.

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Last time I heard the term “dad bod”, it was an article about how when they polled women for an example of one, the top answer was “Chris Hemsworth”

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225 points

This is not a zero sum game. there’s no competition. We can deal with both problems, we don’t have to pick a side.

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Well yes, and the starting point is by dismissing the myth that the double standards are not applied to everyone. They are applied differently, but it is not something that only affects one group of people.

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35 points

Is that really a myth? Because it feels like the only time this point is brought up is to “dispel the myth”, not the myth itself which I frankly can’t recall having ever heard.

My theory is that it’s actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren’t explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles, and of the fact that men just generally don’t talk about their struggles. So the coverage feels disproportional and the only time the subject gets brought up it’s because some angry misogynist managed to weave it into an “us vs them” discourse.

Men’s mental health is a huge conversation to have but it’s extremely disheartening that in the mainstream conversation it always pops up through misogyny.
So in the spirit of actually doing something about men’s mental health, here’s some actual discourse on the subject

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Why did this get immediately downvoted, lol

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4 points

Lemmy needs an r/menslib equivalent

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Hollywood’s standards for women are just a normal woman’s body. Hollywood’s standard for men is the body of a greek god.

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I agree with your second statement. Though your first statement is borderline moronic.

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Nothing “borderline” about it. That statement is 100% moronic.

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12 points

I’m struggling to think of any famous women who look like they weigh 170 lbs. It’s either Margot Robbie or Lizzo, there’s not a lot in between

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Really should be a legal requirement for a normal BMI to appear in media, then they wouldn’t be able load up on steroids

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BMI is not a measure of health. It is a statistical tool.

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Yes, welcome to the conversation

We aren’t talking about the health of these moviestars on roids, we are talking about the effects they have on viewers’ self image

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15 points

To further illustrate your point, most of the men pictured are likely ‘obese’ by BMI standards

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6 points

But that would also eliminate all obese people from the media. Which is like 30%+ of the population.

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And the massively underweight that women are supposed to aspire to

Whichever way you skew it, unrealistic bodies shouldn’t be there

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That would be a side benefit of an otherwise bad idea.

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