86 points

How about also, “Wow, seems like you need to work on your resource planning skills,” when a manager tries to demand unpaid overtime?

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I’d straight up tell a boss that asked for unpaid overtime that their failure to allocate resources is money out of my pocket if and only if you want to hear from the DoL.

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Unfortunately, many jobs that do this are salaried exempt.

Now, whether they are miss categorized is a different story. That’s why my wife’s old workplace is going to get some attention from the IRS and DOL when she finishes her month’s notice.

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I think you might just straight say “management skills” because that’s bare minimum part of their fucking job to organize a schedule well enough so they don’t have to have people running into overtime to get the job done. That is time management, too, because you’re supposed to know how long it takes each employee to do shit, and you should be fucking organizing based on that.

I’m so fucking sick of skeleton crews. I’m pushing 50 and the last 25 fucking years has been nothing but skeleton crews where if one person calls out sick everything falls apart. Sorry, that’s inefficient as hell. If one person calling out wrecks everything, then that means you’re doing it fucking wrong and maybe you need one or two more people to help cover the gaps. I’m sure it makes them beaucoup bucks in the short term, but the profits from ruining your relationship with your customer base won’t last. Eventually customers do get sick of being treated like shit. (Corporations are banking on all of them similarly treating you like shit so you won’t have any real options that are better.)

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skeleton crews

I’m not a manager, but if I had a business critical three person job and some busywork, I’d schedule four people minimum. Probably five if the busywork is important at the time.

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6 points

Managers lower the bus factor to like .8 and force everyone else to work too hard to pick up the slack. Then they act shocked when somebody gets hit by a bus and it all falls apart.

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6 points

beaucoup bucks

I’ve never seen this phrase in print before and the spelling is fucking me up a bit ngl

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5 points

I had to look it up to make sure I was spelling it right!

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2 points

Literally every order at my last job bottlenecked through me. That meant that I got shit every time I dared to take time off because it meant one of the salespeople had to do my job and they didn’t even know how to do it well because our processes kept changing and only I was keeping up. I was paid dick despite that too. So glad to be away from that fucking job.

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2 points

Normalize I ionizing so you can have more frank discussions with management with more protection.

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149 points

My childhood friends started saying that anyone working after noon on Friday is disorganized and I think it’s beautiful.

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66 points

It don’t matter how organized I am, my boss sees I’m done by noon on a friday he’ll give me more service calls, shop time or some other job to do.

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That’s not the type of job they are referring to.

They’re referring to jobs where you have overarching goals and deliverables but aren’t logging actions to the event, or to the hour.

I’ve had jobs like yours and steady, dependable, maintainable pace is the way to get through the week. Don’t over promise, don’t look available for random new tasks.

At my current gig I have tasks issued at the 2 week level, and aside from very rare requests for assistance or discussion, I’m left to my to-do list, and my predetermined commitments. If I consistently meet my commitments, and show up for scheduled meetings, no one gives a shit when I actually work. It’s great but requires the right environment.

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Same. They want me available during working hours but that doesn’t necessarily mean working. So if shit hits the fan at noon on Friday I’m around to answer questions, but unless something big is going down I’m not really doing anything.

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I’m aware of that, I’m just bringing attention to the fact that some people work in positions where it doesnt matter how hard you worked throughout the week, getting an afternoon off is still very rare.

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Wow, Sounds like you really need to work on your time management skills.

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53 points

That’s where you’re going wrong, you still need to pretend you’re doing work

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19 points

Just don’t say you’re done with your work.

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10 points

That only works until the last call I did calls to pay their bill and now the office knows I’m done my work. I usually just suck it up and take more work, I’d hoestly rather that than twiddle my thumbs for a few hours.

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15 points

That’s why you develop the talent of looking busy while not doing shit.

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26 points

Must be nice to not have billable hours to worry about…

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39 points

It is. You should try to move to a career where you sell the results of your labor, not the time it takes to achieve them. Easier said than done, I know. Good luck!

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I think I would have to get a govt job in my career path to be able to do that. I’ve considered it, but idk if I really want to or not.

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15 points

I already finished all my work for the sprint that ends on Tuesday. It’s Thursday at noon currently.

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Ok yeah maybe but can we all stop writing our witty tweets in the same format? “normalize [abnormal thing]” is not only getting old, it probably is not effective at all

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You’re more than welcome to downvote and move on.

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Hey, I’m just trying to normalize better ways to call for normalization.

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8 points

I doubt anyone else is thinking about it as much as you tbh

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4 points

Tbh i think there are a fair amount that think it’s a tired form of expressing sentiments like that.

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Isn’t the goal of a post like this to get people thinking? If it’s the same ol’ same ol’, it’s easier to tune out.

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6 points

Purely anecdotal evidence, but enough people telling me to normalize it has convinced me to tell coworkers my salary.

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21 points

I always wondered how bragging about how long you worked was considered by some as a good thing. The “higher ups” must have used some fancy tricks to get people to think that way. It never worked on me though :)

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5 points

Guessing you weren’t desperate to please someone. Gotta kiss ass to move up!

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10 points

Management was handing out bullshit busywork recently, and some people were complaining. Then some guy was like “they pay my salary, so I do whatever they want!”

What kind of bullshit wage slave mentality is that? I am the vendor in this scenario, my employer is paying for the privilege of using my services. There can be terms and conditions from both parties of that deal, and if they’re incompatible the deal is off.

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Ah I have the attitude of “you’re free to pay me engineer money to do this, but I’m leaving at 4 whether I was productive or doing weird bullshit you decided on.“

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2 points

Sure, if there’s a business need for cleaning the office toilets I’ll stop coding and do it for a day.

In this case it’s “everyone needs to spend a few weeks getting points in the training portal, we don’t care what you do in there as long as you get points”. This clearly doesn’t fulfill any business need, people just do whatever BS is the least effort per point. And as you might expect from an internal training portal, spending 20 minutes in that thing makes me want to stab myself.

Again, if there’s a business need for it that’s a different story, but useless mandates just to jerk people around are a deal breaker.

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1 point

My Electrician “You want me to sweep up?” “Not at your rates”

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I always wondered how bragging about how long you worked was considered by some as a good thing.

Somebody invented “Employee of the Month” and our competitive habits took over.

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I never thought about this before, but if I worked somewhere and they gave me an ‘employee of the month’ award, it would piss me off because it would make me feel like I was being a kissass somehow.

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8 points

Modern day life is a competition, people always want to “1 up” the previous person. This is prevalent in society, don’t overthink it

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I think people believe it is a sign you are striving to excel or that you care about the work you are doing.

In my case I think I talk about how much overtime I work because I got insecurities about my productivity drilled into me as a child with undiagnosed ADHD. Constantly being told you don’t work hard enough regardless of the effort you put in will give you some weird hangups. I think subconsciously its about needing external validation that the time you put in was adequate, or insecurity around ‘work ethic’

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4 points

I can relate to that. I’m extremely glad I broke that habit. They told me when they needed me. I did what needed to be done within reasonable expectations. My failure past that point is on workload

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9 points

My time management is poor because my project managers is even worse

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Do you brag about your long hours, or do you complain about the lack of predictability from management? Only the former matches the statement in the quote.

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Bragging is subjective.

Some take my bitching and moaning that I was up all night working on ____ because the project is a complete mess and they wanted it today as “bragging”.

Its performance review time, i hate myself and rent is expensive.

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