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Supply and demand. House prices are high because lots of buyers are financially competing for the same properties. The prices won’t collapse unless something disastrous happens to the world that results in an oversupply of housing or massively harms people’s spending power, and the odds are you would be affected by that too.

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A large supply of affordable housing, say like the kind provided by a government dedicated to alleviating the housing crisis, would surely help.

It’s not like there’s nothing we can do.

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Later are the Heavenly gates…genZ-er 4242114…how do you plea? Innocent? Any complaints? No housing? Dude, did you know COVID was supposed to remove the large majority of the population so that you guys got housing for cheap? But nah! You guys had to find a vaccine!

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4 points

Just need boomers to die off. That’ll get some houses on the market.

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We never should have talked them out of eating horse de-wormer

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There are currently 10 million vacant homes across the US, (15 million if you count the ones for rent,) which represents about 7.5% of the total housing. Not refuting your argument, just adding to the conversation.

I guess a lot of these are in less than desirable locations, among other factors, but 4.5 million of them are listed as seasonal, occasional, or recreational use. That’s a lot of vacant housing, considering only 1.2 million of them are for sale.

Edit, I guess these are 2020 numbers so these may have changed since then.

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16 points

It’s never going to collapse.

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8 points

That’s the joke

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28 points

Yep and all the banks are waiting as well, so they can buy even more properties to rent out.

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16 points

Good luck … genx have been waiting as well

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11 points

For our whole lives. Of course we saw a massive crash in 2008, but we also lost our jobs and all of our money, and most of us couldn’t capitalize on it.

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The problem with a collapse in house prices is that it normally comes with a collapse in everyone’s personal finances.

If you can’t afford before a crash, there’s a very good chance you won’t be able to afford after a crash either.

The only thing that will bring house prices down is building a fuckload more houses, and building them in places that people actually want to live.

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2 points

We got a master class in that lesson in 2008.

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The reason houses are expensive is because investment firms are buying them up with cash.

There are entire neighborhoods owned by investment firms. A lot of these homes are empty and are just used to prop up housing costs.

The issue isn’t supply, it’s policy. The issue is reckless monetary policy combined with banks/investment firms controlling the market.

If you want cheaper housing building more isn’t the answer. The real answer is banning corporations from owning homes.

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Just to add to this, it’s not just investment firms. I do title searches for a living and a lot of them are also bought by trusts and IRAs by people living in more well-off areas. It’s basically a retirement plan for them. That should be included in the ban. There basically should be a ban on buying homes you don’t plan on living in or doing significant rehabilitation work to (and with that second stipulation, we should actually inspect and ensure that the house flippers are actually doing much needed work to make the house liveable, not just slapping new paint on the bricks and installing faux shutters to the outside for a quick flip).

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I’ve seen the idea thrown about to tax houses higher the more a single entity owns. IDK about the feasibility of that plan, but we need to do something. I feel like it would never happen, though, because rich people and, by extension, lawmakers own multiple homes and they wouldn’t want to lose money.

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Taxes don’t mean shit to the wealthy. They will find a loophole to exploit and end up never paying taxes.

Even still if they had to pay more taxes it’s nothing to them. They are swimming in money. It’s not even about the money at this point. They want to undercut the poor so the poor stay poor.

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You’d end up with unhoused boomers.

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That’s already going to happen. The ones that can afford to retire are nearly all there, the rest are going to be indigent and need our support lest they become homeless when they are physically too old to work.

America has become a nightmare for most.

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No that won’t fix it. Not completely anyway. All houses are being bought up by international multi billion dollar investment firms who then proceed to rent out those houses for more than they’re worth, driving up rent prices. Here in Vancouver, Canada, rent prices are beyond ridiculous, and have nothing to-do with what the units are actually worth. If you want to stop that, prohibit companies from owning houses, dead stop. Increase taxes on second, third, and fourth houses exponentially, making it only interesting for a single person to have one, maaaaybe two houses.

With that, houses will become eligible to buy again at normal prices

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I mean I was looking out a window in seattle the other day and at least half the rooms in buildings I could see looked empty. I do think there needs to be more laws to punish landlords that have too many vacant units as well.

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5 points

And doing away with Airbnb

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2 points

I don’t have finances, checkmate

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You could also introduce regulations to prevent houses being used as investments.

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There was a great video years ago that detailed what would happen if house prices were to rise, fall, or stay stagnant.

You’re right, if they were to crash, we’d all be a lot poorer, but there would also be a lot of (still) cash-rich people that would happily buy up all the cheap stock, and we’d be in an even worse position than before. We’d build more houses, but we’d ultimately create new billionaires, and given the low quality of some new builds, probably a two-timer system of ownership where the poors get the new houses on flood lands/with dodgy cladding, and the rich live in good builds.

The best thing to happen overall is a price cap per-area, dropping by a percent every year or two, with subsidies on sustainable renting (low rent fees, buildings being up to code, etc). The landlords that use their property as investments will bail right away, renters will see the market switch to their favour, and through legislation you could probably push rent-to-sell options for those that maintain homes and want to release over several years.

More homes need to be built, but that also means more infrastructure, and building all of this without selling those houses to the highest bidder. That all takes time, at a time where there are a lot of cash-rich people that would love more investment.

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