Oh this is about Israel. I thought it was about Ukraine and I was very confused
i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.
It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they’d probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday or some shit
Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious
Conspiracy theory doesn’t mean false or crazy. Some conspiracies are crazy/false. But not all. There is a way to generally pick out the bat shit theories pretty quickly though. The more people that are required to maintain a conspiracy, the less likely it is to be a thing.
So for conservatives where they insist that the world is conspiring against them and that they aren’t just assholes. They’re just assholes. In the case of Russia and China running foreign influence operations. We have evidence they do. We know America does. And we know ML or people generally from .ml domains are generally just anti American hypocrites eager to play along just to bash America.
That said, if they are doing this. And they are. Pelosi just gave them plenty more ammunition. The United States is making a lot of unforced errors when it comes to Israel. All we had to do was step back for a little bit and act cautious.
Pelosi’s claim is that protestors have Russian ties, because, you know, opposing genocide is anti-American.
Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (born 7 October 1952)
Sonofabitch, you’re right they did.
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
If I was living in Gaza right now, I’d be transforming myself into a human revenge machine. Even if nobody I knew personally had been killed. Just seeing my neighbors being slaughtered, I’d be quietly and coldly calculating.
An FSB time traveler going into the past several decades to start kicking Palestinians out of their homes and restricting their general access.
Whoa dude Russia could be behind ALL CRIME EVER IN HISTORY
Got any more big brain takes to share?
I don’t know how making an almost pedestrian (in international relations terms) idea sound incredulous and fantastical is supposed to refute that idea, but it certainly makes you come across as, shall we say, suspiciously out of touch.
“oh right, and you’re just going to beam me that message over the “airwaves” like some kind of “electronic mail”? Haha try pulling the other one, it has bells on.”
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
If you’re curious as to how they are related, it’s because of over-accumulation of capital.
It is not like Israel needs any help, and I don’t think that we are all incapable of following two different events.
If we are talking about theories, it can also be that west created it so that people’s attention goes away of Ukraine since it is just a big fiasco.
I’ve said it before: Every Democrat I know in real life seems like an empathetic person, so it’s astonishing they choose these ghouls to represent them.
My running theory from observing from across the Atlantic is that participating in American politics is mentally destructive. You are confronted by two frankly terrible options, so you either accept you live in an undemocratic country or you have to convince yourself that one of the parties is actually good. No matter what choice you make, it breaks something in you.
Maybe this is what leads to so much cultlike behavior and unquestioned loyalty to one party or the other. And if you’re anywhere outside these parties, or you so much as criticize a sitting politician, then you’re hated from all sides and accused of being a Russian bot, which is especially disappointing when you’re someone who does hold your nose and vote blue, but that’s not good enough – you have to fully toe the line, or else it’s perceived as interfering with a campaign, a campaign which never ends.
We’re not really a democracy, are we?
See the thing is for the most part the only people who question the loyalty is Democrats who only choose Democrats because the other choices more terrible and then the Republicans are in questioning because they’re filled with hate and propaganda.
Yes, I know you could say the same about Democrats but that’s not what studies show. Sorry about your feelings. (Not to the person I’m replying to specifically, but anyone who takes offense)
That’s because Congress has been piss-poor at being representative of the people.
It’s usually not about who shares the policy positions of the electorate as much as who can scrape together enough money to buy enough ads to convince them that they’re the one most likely to beat the other team.
That’s how Pelosi became Speaker in the first place in spite of having no legislative accomplishments to speak of nor seniority: she was simply the best at collecting fat checks from rich people and their corporations.
Our “democracy” does this by design. Looking at history, it’s hard to believe we can ever fix this.
Yeah I know. All the rules are written and being written by the already rich and powerful. Based on the world’s oldest national constitution still in use.
Who would have thought that perpetually basing society on the opinions of a bunch of slave owning WASPs would lead to inequality ‽
Pelosi had literal decades of political experience, and was co-authoring legislation in the late 80s concerning the AIDs crisis. She became Speaker after Democrats won control of the house with her as minority leader – a position she won in 2002/2003 after being directly under it for a couple years.
I get not liking Pelosi, or fundraising I guess, but it’s bizarre when criticisms are spun seemingly whole cloth.
decades of political experience
Yeah, decades of effectively soliciting bribes in exchange for being one of the most pro-corporate democrats in all of California and that’s saying a LOT in the neoliberal utopia of Hollywood, a huge chunk of the music industry and Silicon Valley.
co-authoring legislation in the late 80s concerning the AIDs crisis.
So was many other experienced democrats who didn’t pander to the rich as effectively as the queen of fundraising.
No matter how little you like admitting it, that WAS the only way in which she excelled over other prospective candidates for minority leader and then Speaker.
You dont really get a choice on who the party chooses to prop up and runs. See, Bernie Sanders. But, hell, I’ve seen it ag the grass roots level in my state. The people with the power in the party decide who goes on the ballot.
In my experience they appear to be until you bring up some issues, then they turn into bloodthirsty monsters.
For example, my my goes completely Ooga booga genocidal when Isreal is brought up.
Or on housing: She won’t even entertain any solutions that don’t let landlords keep exploiting people’s basic need for homes. She gets all “why should they have to give up property? They worked for it! Shouldn’t they be able to make money?” She can’t possibly empathize enough to value the basic needs of most people over the right for people who already own more than they need to profit off of others who have less than they need.
Honestly, I think most of them just don’t like the aesthetic of the Republican Party more than they’re actually opposed to conservative politics.
Yeah, that’s probably why these horrible people end up in office. Most Democrats I know are my father, who says he’s socialist and actually used to teach history, and local politicians who seem pretty good, but I imagine they’re not necessarily a good cross section of the party.
That’s why it literally surprised me when Biden won the primaries, like what
Not sure how that was surprising to anyone paying attention at the time lol
A prerequisite for being a politician is also being a narcissistic sociopath. The few that aren’t/weren’t are the deviation from that, and usually get hamstrung if not just killed anyway.
I’ve actually considered running for local office, but I decided against it for a couple reasons, one being my unusual work schedule, and the other being the fact that I can’t imagine being around politicians that much.
Anyway, it’s pretty clear we need more than elections to fix whatever it is this is.
My dad ran for local office and only served one term because he said it was fucking awful.
Jeffries is toeing the same line.
There is a huge generational divide in the democratic party between those who benefit from the US police state and those who are suffering from it.
This seems to map very cleanly onto whether people support the Gaza genocide.
What has she done?
What ceasefire? Which one, of the numerous conflicts now on Earth, is referred to here?
Pretty sure it’s in reference to this past weekend she got approached by someone demanding a ceasefire, and Pelosi’s response was for that person to go back to China because they are also genociding Uygurs. She later claimed she thought the reporter was a Russian plant or some unhinged bs.
So, not even the usual ceasefire bad because right to defend. Just ceasefire bad because whataboutism.
This still does not answer which ceasefire you’re referring to. Could refer to Ukraine, for example.
Allow me to explain what they were going for: demoncrats bad, orange fan mad
Ah yes because anyone that doesn’t like democrats must be republican!
Libs are such a joke, but you don’t even understand the punchline.
Meanwhile does more shady stock trades while everyone is looking the other way
