142 points

One million people playing at 1080p and 60fps

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18 points

Nah, some do be playing at 1440/2160p

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0 points

Damn I heard you can inject ray tracing and even “mod” the game.

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-70 points

I really don’t understand these people. I’m currently playing the game and love it, not once has my experience made me even think about the resolution and frame rate. I swear that’s all PC gamers care about, how crispy a game looks, even if it’s a pile of shit.

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68 points

Yes, pc gamers only care about graphics, that’s why pc is the biggest indie platform, because indie games are known for the best graphics

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13 points

Indie games in 8K though.

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31 points

People have given you a lot of snarky or rude answers, which isn’t warranted. I partially agree with you, but partially disagree too.

For ToTK, High resolution doesn’t matter a ton because the game is well optimized for its intended platform, for playing on a switch can still give you great vistas and pictures. This is where I agree with you.

However, the difference between 30 and 60 fps makes a big difference in this game. Controls, motion, and fights all feel a lot smoother and natural at 60 fps. And while vistas and pictures still look great, a lot of the game has additional beauty when in motion. The improved frame rate does make a difference and can enhance the experience for a game that deserves it. The people who made this game clearly put a lot of thought and creativity into and the switch isn’t always able to deliver that experience to the players. Think of it like going to an indoor play with sunglasses on; it may still be enjoyable to but some of the experience is lost.

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22 points

The original comment was pretty snarky so I see about as much snark as I’d expect, tbh.

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24 points

I mean this as nicely as possible but if the difference between 30fps tops and steady 60 isn’t obvious to you, you’re either ignorant of what you’re missing, or you’re too casual for it to matter

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-24 points

I mean this as nicely as possible but if his being able to notice a difference in graphic fidelity is that important to you, you’re either a maladjusted antisocial weirdo, or just an egotistical twat who has to be right 100% of the time

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16 points

I’m late to the switch party, as I’m just messing with one for the first time since Christmas. I’ve been a PC gamer for decades. Decided to try out breath of the wild, and I’m having a blast with it. That being said, I would be lying if I said there weren’t times where the frame rate dropped so low it’s distracting. This new one may not have that issue, but I’m betting it’s similar. I would absolutely be interested in emulating the game on better hardware. Hardware I already have at home.

You may not understand this side of the argument, and that’s fair. I also don’t understand yours. If someone wants to improve their experience with the game, it costs me nothing to give them a smile and a thumbs up for enjoying their own time/money however they like.

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5 points

I think it’s probably worse. They added in new mechanics, which probably means higher CPU load. I’ve heard reports of poor framerates on Switch, but can’t confirm because I didn’t bother getting it (I didn’t like BotW that much, I prefer more classic Zelda games).

If it was available on PC, I’d probably get it because playing a BotW-like game at 60fps at higher res may be worth it. I’m probably not getting it for Switch though, because I’ve already decided that experience isn’t worth the cost.

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14 points

They’re frustrated because the game could easily be better if it wasn’t forced to run on a tablet. So easily in fact, that it’s just a button, and it’s unlocked. It’s right there, but Nintendo makes more money if you can only play it on their tablet.

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-27 points

Again though, this game is fantastic, and if you can’t enjoy it because of something that trivial, then I feel sorry for you. You must have hated every n64 game or any video game released before 2020 if you can’t enjoy it unless it has top of the line, current gen graphics

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12 points

You really don’t understand how a crisper image and smoother controls can’t enhance the experience? Like when you have the option of watching a video at 1080p or 4k why opt for 480p or less? And that’s not even a video game.

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-4 points

I literally make this choice almost every day. Why? Because I can have either my dvd player or the ps3 hooked up. I do not like using the latter for playback so I’m watching the DVD version if I have it. I’d have to run the calculations but I’m pretty sure at least 75% of my collection is DVD only. I get whatever is cheapest for most movies since the quality only matters for a small amount. Office Space isn’t any better at 1080p or 4k.

Doesn’t really apply to streaming since I don’t even pay for 4k and I’m pretty sure 1080p is default unless the show isn’t available at that res.

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-13 points

By that logic you couldn’t enjoy a movie like the godfather or gone with the wind prior to 4k technology because it wasn’t clean enough for you. I bet you also love watching old films with true motion and grain smoothing

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10 points

What a weird hill to die on.

How can someone else’s experience and enjoyment of something differ from my own criteria?!

Not least because switch was old hardware when it launched, it’s aged hardware at this point, and equivalent games on other platforms have far better performance.

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-8 points

I’m just saying, PC gamers only care about graphics. Switch costs like $300 a gaming PC costs like $3k, why would Nintendo give up it’s exclusivity to please your tiny niche market, a market of unpleasable gamers as PC gamers are known to be.

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9 points

Its not juat about looking nice. Sub-30 fps is genuinely uncomfortable to many people. You aren’t sensitive to it, good for you.

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game is 30 fps and looks like crap in my opinion. 30 may be the minumum playable framerate but it still looks choppy as hell and feels unresponsive to play which you can notice after experiencing as low as 60 fps. and the landscapes have no saving grace either, anything 5 meters away has a ton of LOD applied and just looks bad.

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8 points

In my experience switch doesn’t even do 30 fps locked well with 20s not being rare in lot of games. Some exceptions being Bayonetta games that actually hit 60.

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-1 points

lol imagine thinking metrics make a game good.

You’re perfect for middle manglement.

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4 points

For your sake I hope you’re a bot.

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1 point

Damn you made the hivemind angry

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1 point

I really don’t understand these people. I’m currently owning an Honda civic in the default color Satin Silver Metallic and love it, not once has my experience made me even think about changing the paint or using decals. I swear that’s all car enthusiasts care about, how crispy their cars look, even if it’s a pile of shit.

People have preferences, man. And they don’t settle for the default option, even/especially when corporations try to enforce them.

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65 points

Tears of Nintendo

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64 points

“the harm caused by this software was “manifest and irreparable.””

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Tears_of_the_Kingdom

"More than 10 million copies of Tears of the Kingdom were sold in its first three days of release, making it the fastest-selling game in The Legend of Zelda franchise, as well as the fastest selling Nintendo game in the Americas with over four million copies sold in the US alone.[50][51] 

Tears of the Kingdom sold over 2.24 million copies within its first three days of release in Japan, 1.1 million being physical copies.[52][53] 

By December 2023, the game had sold 20.28 million copies worldwide.[54] 

In August 2023, it was reported that the sales of Tears of the Kingdom may have boosted the gross domestic product of Japan, with a 2.8% increase in consumer spending in the semi-durable goods sector during April to August 2023, which included video games.[55]"

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28 points

the harm caused by this software was “manifest and irreparable.”

Except it’s arguably not, because it’s not like the 1 million copies of the game was stolen and could not be sold anymore. The game is still available for sale, and it is still making them money - all people did was pirate a single copy of the game 1 million times.

Also, if they sold 20.8 million units, and assuming every single instance of pirating was done by people who did not buy the game (read: lots of people bought a legal copy and “pirated” it anyways for better performance on Yuzu), they lost out on 5% revenue as of this time of writing.

Very sad Nintendo couldn’t sell another $60 million worth of games /s

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15 points

Yup. I’d buy a digital copy of TotK if I could play it on my PC, but Nintendo doesn’t offer that, so I either need to buy it for Switch, or pirate it. I found BotW kinda lame (I much prefer Skyward Sword and Link’s Awakening), so I’m not motivated to buy it for Switch, especially since I’ve seen reports of mediocre performance.

So yeah, I don’t feel bad for Nintendo at all here. If they made their games available on PC for a reasonable price, I’m sure many would buy their games twice, once on Switch and once on PC. Their loss I guess…

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Im not in bed with Nintendo here, as I very much disagree with their aggressive stance against emulators and such - but I do believe that your argument ‘they don’t release it for PC so I’m gonna pirate’ doesn’t hold up. You can still support the people creating the games (which give you lots of hours of entertainment) by buying a copy for the Swtich. Some countries even allow you to back up your game cartridge and play it on PC so you’d be completely within your rights even.

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4 points

Article states that the 1M copies were downloaded before the game even came out. There’s certainly an argument to be made about lost revenue there.
But of course, Yuzu is in no way responsible, and you could argue the majority of downloads weren’t intending to buy anyway, so lost revenue is likely very small.

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45 points

I feel like everyone is missing the line that says “before it came out”. However, I find that hard to believe that 1 million people played a pirated copy before the release date and i can’t remember any leaked gameplay or screenshots.

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29 points

They probably mean in regions it wasn’t available in yet, which is a key reason people would pirate. If they just made the game available everywhere then they wouldn’t have these problems.

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17 points

Nope, 2 weeks before tears of the kingdoms worldwide May 12 release, someone uploaded it to torrents.

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8 points

It was actually leaked two weeks in advance…

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6 points

Can’t even blame emulation as the main culprits playing it either with first gen switches being able to be jailbroken and hardware mods existing for current ones.

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2 points

I do think Yuzu should win. I’m in favor of emulation. I just read all the comments being like “I only emulated after I bought it for the 1080p 60fps”. Which wasnt in line with what the article was asserting.

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3 points

People streamed the game on twitch for weeks prior to it being released

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43 points

Pirated, or downloaded a back up of a game they bought a physical copy of?

All the people I know who emulated it also bought it in this case, because emulation was objectively a better experience for the game.

I bought it and played in on the switch, myself, but if I ever did another playthrough I’d want to higher res of emulation.

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6 points

That’s technically legal right? Kinda like ripping a CD?

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16 points

IANAL, depending on your jurisdiction, downloading someone else’s backup of something can be illegal. Backing up your own physical copy and using that is very often legal.

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9 points

Usually its the uploading or distributing thats the illegal part.

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8 points

Ripping the game from your own system/cartridge is legal, downloading an identical copy from the internet is not.

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1 point

Source?

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Pirated in this case as they’re talking about the leak that happened before it was released, so no one owned a copy of it at that point.

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