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the whole plan is to get him over here and then kill him or let him die of neglect.

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May as well get in early.

Julian Assange didn’t kill himself.

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7 points

A lot like Gary Webb.

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The US hasn’t executed someone under espionage charges since the Rosenbergs.

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I suspect they’d prefer that he die in prison over there, but if not then in prison over here. I don’t think they want to ever take this to trial, because it’s been a farce from the start.

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They literally dropped all the potentially credible charges they were first going for. Those women in Sweden? Long gone, as of 5 years ago. Hillary Clinton’s emails? Also dropped.

What really sucks is that the narrative has changed over years, as the facts have been forgotten. People think he’s been in league with Russia, and some even think Russia provided him with evidence against Republicans alongside the Democrat emails, and that he refused to publish the Republican stuff in support of Russia so that Russia’s man (Trump) could get in the White House.

First off, Russia wouldn’t provide Republican emails if they were trying to get a Republican inside the White House (they didn’t provide any such emails and they did promote Trump). Second, the controversy as about Wikileaks not publishing details of Russian corruption. While this is definitely controversial (and frankly something I disagree with), Wikileaks’ reasoning was simply: “Russian corruption is not news, it is to be expected”.

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Well, Epstein’s cell is empty at the moment.

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Does the uk not have a law against executions and if so would the not be breaking said law by extraditing him.

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That’s exactly what they’re arguing here. However the US is trying to use a non-answer to avoid this, and in the past that’s worked.

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Well doesnt that just fill you with confidence.

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3 points

Well, can’t send him there then, right?

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Regardless of any judicial or legal red tape preventing that extradition, are we seriously operating under the assumption that the United States government would execute him?

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are we seriously operating under the assumption that the United States government would execute him?

Legally, UK and EU courts must consider this, because sending someone to a country where they will be executed for their crimes is a breach of human rights.

By the strict reading of the law, he could be extradited for life in prison. If he was being extradited to be sentenced to death, that would be a no go.

The US are skirting and pushing the bounds of UK law here. Unfortunately, they will likely get away with it, because the English are pussies.

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because the English are pussies

You spelled complicit wrong…

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I don’t like Julian Assange, but I think that if he were found guilty of his crimes of espionage, that he has already served out more than a proportional sentence in exile.

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Everytime someone says they don’t have anything to hide I ask them what the pin of their phone is and to give me their phone. Suddenly that’s something different…

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I once asked a friend if he trusted the lock on his phone (brand new iPhone 15 Pro Max, latest and greatest). He told me he did. I asked him if I could use his phone while it was locked, and he told me “No, I don’t trust you. You would probably hack it or something.” That statement says two things:

  1. He only cares about attacks on privacy on a personal level, which is the mental flaw lots of people have.

  2. He doesn’t actually trust the lock on his phone, but refuses to admit it.

By the way, here’s a few fun gimmicks you can pull on iPhone users:

  1. See if you can swipe left to view widgets on the lock screen. I was able to get someone’s address this way. He told me the whole time “There’s nothing you can find there.” and then afterwards said “Ah, crap.”

  2. If there is a lock screen mini widget (under the time) for a clock or related feature, tap on it and it will open the clock app. You can also get there if you can swipe down to access control center if the “timer” button is enabled there. You can then make it look like you unlocked their phone, and start reading off their alarm names. This one has freaked out a lot of people.

  3. If they realize how you got there and try disabling control center access on the lock screen (as they should, FaceID is fast enough people!), you can see if you can access Siri and say “View my alarms”.

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I can see why your friend would assume you could hack their phone based on how specific these steps are.

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Me: graphene phone with notifications hidden until unlocked. No voice assistant whatsoever. I guess the only thing you can do is take pictures from lock screen but that’s not really useful. It doesn’t show gallery of previous photos.

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Even default android has such settings. I can view what song I’m listening to, take new photos and theoretically take short notes(haven’t figured out how it works) and that’s it. Also since I disabled the Google assistant, they can’t do anything with it too.

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There is a difference between having nothing to hide and not closing the door when talking a shit

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What I’m hearing is that people have an inert desire for privacy, EVEN if they don’t have anything to hide (what are you hiding in the toilet?) I don’t see why that wouldn’t extend into the digital realm…

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And what is it?

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A right to privacy? Not in my country, thank you very much.

The government has every right to watch you take a shit and if you don’t acknowledge that then you must be conspiring to deprive us of our freedoms.

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Say whatever you want, Snowden’s a fucking hero for sharing this.

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Don’t forget the people that tried to blow the whistle on the NSA prior to Snowden

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52 points

A ‘State’ is not inherently bad. That’s just libertarian propaganda/dogma. Self-interested psychopaths in charge of a state is bad…

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Funny thing about ancap libertarianism is that they’ve correctly identified that power can lead to tyranny, but they’re completely oblivious to the power that corporatism (the conclusion of lassez-faire capitalism) results in.

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They often are Christians, so they apply fundamentalist style thinking and cannot challenge the assumptions they made.

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tHe mArKeT wIlL rEgUlAtE tHeM

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States always wind up being run by self-interested psychopaths.

That’s not a “flaw;” it’s the fundamental nature of the concept.

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States always wind up being run by self-interested psychopaths

Being an self-interested psychopath is almost a requirement to be a company owner/manager

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We need a strong authoritarian leader and a massive police force to keep the people in line.

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I think you forgot a /s

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I think some people missed the joke

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Lol lots of people think that no entity has the right to monopolize violence against a population.

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Unfortunately it’s usually self-interested psychopaths who seek out and obtain those positions, especially since you need to be a bit psychotic to do what’s required to get there.

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The state is kinda bad and it’s not only Right-Libertarians who say that. Even so, leaking documents is not always bad. Like, the Abu Ghraib leak was objectively good.

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Abu Graib wasn’t leaked. Amnesty International talked to prisoners that were released. Then the Red Cross used their oversight powers to get in and make an official report. Then a soldier reported the crimes to the Army’s version of the FBI, (CID). The Army then did an investigation and started arresting people.

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Joe Darby came forward with the photographs, effectively leaking them. Rumsfeld later leaked Joe Darby’s name and identity, leading to him receiving death threats.

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Oh boy, here comes the political drama. Can we not do this?

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Too late

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any state is bad because taxes are evil

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Taxes used for public good and infrastructure are what taxes are supposed to be for. And they should be raised and collected proportionally to your wealth.

Neither of those statements describe how the US handles taxes.

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Why are taxes evil, I like roads

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Ohh man that one must hurt

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Man I really do enjoy reading the classifieds

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